There are No Girls on the Internet as a production of IHeart Radio and Unbossed Creative.

I'm Bridget Todd, and this is There Are No Girls on the Internet.

March is Women's History Month, and this year, honoring women's contributions feels less like a celebration, and frankly, more like an act of resistance.

So today, I want to introduce you to someone who shapes the way that we all experience technology, even if you've never heard of her name, Susan Kerr.

She designed the visual language of the early

Mac, the icons, the fonts, the look and feel that made personal computing something that people

actually wanted to touch and use. Back in 2021, I joined my friend Samantha and Annie over at the podcast

Stuff Mom Never Told You

to dig into Susan Care's legacy

where she came from, what she built,

and why it still matters today.

Hey, this is Annie and Samantha.

And welcome to Steph Mom Never Told You,

production of IHeart Radio.

Okay. And welcome to Steph Home Never Told You, production of IHeart Radio. Today we are so thrilled to be joined in the virtual studio space by our friend and colleague Bridget Todd.

Hello, Bridget. Hello. I'm so excited to be back here with you all. Jose, we missed you. Welcome back. Thank you. Thank you. I missed you, too, as always. You're so busy, though. We know. We know. You're constantly going. Well, I can always make room for my two favorite ladies. Oh, yes. We were discussing before this. We're very excited for this topic, particularly because we have different levels of

experience when it comes to computers and technology. And in this case, Samantha, you're saying

you don't know Mac very well. No, I am so not in the loop. I've never used the Mac. I don't have an iPhone. I'm so far away from those products. And I'm a little scared of it. Because every time I've been on Friends, I literally look at it and touch a button, something goes wrong and I hanged it back. I'm like, I'm sorry. You're like, I launched a missile. I don't know what the fuck I did. I'm sorry. I'm pretty sure I just started a war somewhere. I'm so sorry. I feel like that too, though, because my phone is a swipe. And one time my friend handed me her phone and was like, can you text this message? And it was not a swipe and I stared at it. like this makes no sense to me. I cannot figure this out.

Yeah, when it becomes like technology, when you're used to one way and then you try and figure

out something else, I feel like it's a trap. It's so true. It's so true. So I use an iPhone. Most of

my friends do not use iPhones. They use like Google

pixels. When I am handed a Google pixel, it does not matter how many times I've been

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