The Woman Lori Vallow Daybell Couldn’t Intimidate | Nancy Jo Hancock Speaks Out

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Hidden True Crime

True Crime, Society & Culture, News Commentary, Documentary, News

4.8 • 1.9K Ratings

🗓️ 28 July 2025

⏱️ 70 minutes

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In one of the most powerful moments of Lori Daybell’s Arizona trial, witness Nancy Jo Hancock turned to the woman on trial, and delivered a line that stunned the courtroom: “Don't Flatter Yourself.” Now, for the first time, Nancy Jo sits down with Hidden True Crime to share why she felt compelled to speak out, what it was like to testify against Lori, and what she learned while talking with Charles Vallow. About Hidden True Crime: What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling. Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at Patreon.com/hiddentruecrime Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	spent your whole date, getting to know each other, talking about me.
0:04.2	Don't flatter yourself. No, we did not spend the whole time talking about you.
0:08.4	Hello, Hidden Jans. I have a very special guest here today, and I'm sure you guys know exactly who this lady in red is.
0:15.0	This is the woman, the myth, the legend, Nancy Joe Hancock.
0:20.5	And we have an interview we're going to do with you today.
0:26.1	Before I give you the stages are asking you a lot of questions, I'm going to say a few things,
0:32.2	which I'm sure everyone is mad at right now because we've been dying to hear from you and they're
0:35.3	going to say, shut up, Lauren, let her talk. but I just want to say a few things about this amazing woman.
0:41.2	She has been taking care of us. There are things behind the scenes that you guys don't know
0:45.9	like Nancy Johancock bringing us dinner, giving me clothes that I can wear when I didn't have
0:52.9	enough clothes here.
0:55.0	Thank you for letting me borrow some earrings today.
0:59.0	Nancy Joe has helped me with my cough.
1:03.0	This clove oil is your suggestion and has genuinely worked.
1:08.0	You dry heave when you take it. Yeah. The price you pay, but I'm not coughing. Like, look, listen to me. Have you heard me cough since you've arrived? And I've been, I have not taking it. She's an amazing woman and she is a caretaker. And I just want to say thank you to you too for how you have helped Grayson and myself
1:29.7	while we have been away from home.
1:30.9	And we have enjoyed many gossip sessions and laughs.
1:35.9	And you're just, I can say that on the stand,
1:38.6	she's incredible and behind the scenes,
1:42.6	she's also incredible.
1:43.4	So I just want to thank you.
1:45.4	And I also know that you were, well, a couple things I noticed.
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