The Woman in the Frame

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🗓️ 18 September 2019

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Did you know that Martha Washington was essential to America’s Revolutionary War effort? Or that Eleanor Roosevelt was the driving force behind the United Nations’ Universal Declaration of Human Rights? According to journalist, writer, and commentator Cokie Roberts, many of America's First Ladies were dynamic, politically engaged trailblazers who are often overlooked. We sit down with the Smithsonian's National Portrait Gallery director, Kim Sajet, to talk about a recent episode of the museum’s new podcast, Portraits. In it, she and Cokie discuss four First Ladies who are remembered for their influence on American history.

Note: As many of you have probably heard, Cokie Roberts passed away in the days since we originally recorded this episode. Our heart goes out to all of Cokie’s family, friends, and people like us who have enjoyed her work for decades.

Portraits podcast website: https://npg.si.edu/podcasts

Portraits of First Ladies featured in the episode:

Martha Washington portrait
Dolley Madison portrait
Eleanor Roosevelt portrait
Nancy Reagan portrait

Transcript

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0:00.0	Hello everyone, it's Side Door producer Justin O'Neill.
0:03.1	Lizzy's out this week, so I'm here with a sad update.
0:07.1	In this episode, we feature a conversation with legendary journalist Koki Roberts.
0:12.4	Koki passed away in the time since we originally recorded. J
0:15.7	and Jondary journalist Koki passed away in the time since we originally recorded our interview. Our heart goes out to all of Koki's family, friends, and people like us who have admired her work for decades. This is Side Door, a podcast from the Smithsonian with support from PRX.
0:38.2	I'm Lizz my headphones? No. okay. Don't worry.
0:53.0	I have some.
0:54.0	You have hands.
0:55.0	If you want headphones, you are a bona fide podcast.
0:59.0	This is Kim Sayet, director of the Smithsonian's National Portrait Gallery and also a podcaster herself.
1:06.0	She's the host of the National Portrait Gallery's podcast, Portraits.
1:10.0	Today, we're putting Kim in the guest chair to find out more about her new
1:13.8	podcast and while I had the Portrait Galleries Director in the room I wanted to
1:18.5	get one thing straight. So Kim let's start basic. Okay.
1:23.0	Really basic.
1:24.0	Really basic.
1:25.0	What is a portrait?
1:26.0	That's not so basic.
1:28.0	It's actually kind of complicated.
1:30.0	But I think for the point of the portrait gallery and certainly it's collection, you know, we do begin with the idea of the human face.
1:38.0	It helps that they are recognizable.
1:41.0	But I think you could argue and I take a pretty expansive view of portraiture is that it's also it could be somebody's voice
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