The Woman Before Teresa: Vanessa’s POV (Pt.1)

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Welcome back, Legal Team! This week, we’re diving right back into the court proceedings between Real Housewives of New Jersey's Luis Ruelas and ex-fiancé Vanessa Reiser. In the last episode, we covered Luis' Affidavit, and in this juicy 2-part episode (yes, you read that right!) we're covering the case from Vanessa's perspective. But first, if you haven’t listened to Luis’ side yet, we highly recommend you do so. Get caught up here! What’s on the docket? Returning the engagement ring and the law supporting Luis' request Heart Balm Actions: What it means, what states allow it, and which have abolished it The temporary order filed against Vanessa by the court on behalf of Luis in April of 2020 Details of the complaint filed against Luis by Vanessa in May of 2020 Vanessa’s POV on their relationship, claims of narcissistic behavior, admissions, text messages, emails, letters, and everything in between. Access additional content and our Patreon here: https://zez.am/thebravodocket The Bravo Docket podcast, the statements we make whether in our own media or elsewhere, and any content we post are for entertainment purposes only and do not provide legal advice. Any party consuming our information should consult a lawyer for legal advice. The podcast, our opinions, and our posts, are our own and are not associated with our employers, Bravo TV, or any other television network. Cesie is admitted to the State Bars of California and New York. Angela is admitted to the State Bars of Texas, Kansas, and Missouri.

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0:00.0	In reality television, the people are represented by two separate but equally obsessed attorneys.
0:06.2	This is their podcast. Hi, I'm Sussi. And I'm Angela. And this is the Bravo docket.
0:22.3	Before you dive into this episode. And I'm Angela. And this is the Bravo docket.
0:28.3	Before you dive into this episode, we want to note that this second part episode is actually split into two separate episodes. That is because we started recording. We're about 30 minutes of the way in and we realized, oh no, we haven't even scratched the surface. So this episode ended up being two hours long and we decided to split it into two separate episodes, but it is still
0:44.9	just part two of this series on the Louie lawsuit. Part one was his side. This part two, which is now two separate parts, is Vanessa's side. All right, enjoy.
0:59.7	Hi everyone. Welcome back to the Bravo docketocket we're going to continue talking about
1:05.4	Louis Ruelas's relationship with his ex-fiancé and today we're going to talk about the
1:12.0	fiance's side, Vanessa's side but first we're going to talk about the fiance's side, Vanessa's side, but first we're going to hit you with some law.
1:16.0	Anything to add before we dive in?
1:18.0	No, but if you haven't listened to our previous episode on these legal proceedings between Louis and his ex, then listen to that first,
1:28.0	because you really missed out if you didn't listen to that one.
1:31.2	Yeah, that's required reading.
1:33.1	Yeah, we were not prepared for what was in those pleadings.
1:36.6	All right, so before we dive in, let's talk about the law that's involved here.
1:41.0	And this is something we've been asked about a lot is when you have to return an engagement ring if the wedding doesn't happen or if the wedding gets called off.
1:52.0	a la Carl and Lindsay.
1:56.0	And under New York state law, gifts are typically
2:00.0	considered irrevocable.
2:02.2	There's no way to get him back if circumstances change
2:04.8	or the gift giver has a change of heart.
2:07.1	However, there's an exception when it comes to wedding gifts.
2:10.4	Under New York Civil Rights Law, Section 80B,
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