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There's a whole cottage industry of professional historians who fact check the news of the day.

This was really big during the Trump era, especially. Sometimes that's really good because historians are people who are trained to think critically about historical questions, to answer them with nuance.

But also, it can mean that the profession gets sucked into the now.

You're listening to the political scene.

I'm Tyler Foggett, a senior editor at The New Yorker.

James Sweet is a professor of African history and the former president of the American Historical Association.

He's a big deal in his world, but he's not the kind of person who you would usually hear about on a politics podcast.

And that's exactly how Sweet likes it. He wrote an essay last year, arguing that historians have become compromised by politics, that they use it as a jumping off point for all of their work and as a way to go viral on Twitter.

Sweet's essay was wildly controversial, sparking a debate among academics about the role of politics in history and vice versa.

This discussion has recently become a national one, as politicians like Governor Ron DeSantis have vowed to remove all traces of wokeness from school curricula.

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