Welcome to Think Biblically, Conversations on Faith and Culture, a podcast from Talbot School of Theology here at Biola University.

I'm your host Scott Ray, Dean of Faculty and Professor of Christian Ethics.

I'm your co-host Shamatow Professor of Christian Ethics.

I'm your co-host Shamatow, Professor of Christian Apologetics.

We're here with a special guest, Brett McCracken, who is a former colleague here at Biola University, worked in a, let's just say he wore a number of hats

in the communications area at Biola University, very close to the President's office, And now is the senior editor and director of

communications for the Gospel Coalition, which is a terrific website that has

all sorts of terrific multimedia content available.

Brett is the one who basically does the editing and curating of that content and actually

authors a good bit of it himself when he runs out of things to do. So he's got a brand new book out that we are

delighted to be able to feature. It's one of the most insightful works that I've come

across in a really long time. So it's called the Wisdom Pyramid. So we want to alert our

listeners to this new book. Brett's going to tell us a little bit about that. So

Brett, so good to have you with us. Thanks so much for coming on with us.

Thank you, Scott and Sean.

Great to be with you.

Tell us a little bit, I mean, you've done, you've written on a whole host of subjects

that range from, you know know biblical studies to theology to culture and

apologetics why did you set out to write this particular book yeah there there could be a long answer to this question or a short one. So I'll try to do the short one. Basically, I think there's three kind of catalysts for me writing this book. One, working in the digital space as like an editor of a website

I spent all of my all day every day basically on the internet and I'm in that ecosystem and I'm on social media for my job and

while there's great things about it and you know of course the Gospel Coalition

my employer wouldn't exist it not for the internet.

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