Do do do do to do do do do do here we go my name is Todd and this is Kathy

Welcome back to another episode of Zen Parenting Radio this is podcast number

497 um so I guess three away from the big 500 are we going to announce what we're doing on the

500 sure go ahead so for our five talk about it more for our 500 So I guess three away from the big 500. Are we going to announce what we're doing on the 500, Katie?

Sure. Go ahead.

So for our five.

Let's talk about it more.

For our 500, we have never had any of our three kids on the podcast.

Except for Cam.

Cameron was sick one day and she was in, she sat in one of the interviews that we did with my friend Charlie, who's an author.

So we thought it'd be nice to bring them in. It's kind of like everybody loves Raymond. You know how

like on family ties they brought Andrew in and they just gave Andrew lines even though it didn't,

he didn't bring anything to the table? Everybody loves Raymond. They, um, they basically just discluded them from being a part of the show.

Like you'd see him run around, but they wouldn't ever be a part of it.

Or they would, but it'd be rare.

So I'm interested in the two examples you just gave.

Yeah.

Okay, family ties, bringing Andrew in.

Yeah.

He did have lines, though.

Barely. It was a character. Yeah. He did have lines, though. Barely.

It was a character.

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