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The Michael Shermer Show

The Wisdom and Wonder of Being Uncertain

The Michael Shermer Show

Michael Shermer

Dialogue, Science, Reason, Michaelshermer, Natural Sciences, Skeptic

4.4921 Ratings

🗓️ 2 April 2024

⏱️ 89 minutes

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Summary

In an era of terrifying unpredictability, we race to address complex crises with quick, sure algorithms, bullet points, and tweets. How could we find the clarity and vision so urgently needed today by being unsure? Uncertain is about the triumph of doing just that. A scientific adventure tale set on the front lines of a volatile era, this epiphany of a book by award-winning author Maggie Jackson shows us how to skillfully confront the unexpected and the unknown, and how to harness not-knowing in the service of wisdom, invention, mutual understanding, and resilience.

Long neglected as a topic of study and widely treated as a shameful flaw, uncertainty is revealed to be a crucial gadfly of the mind, jolting us from the routine and the assumed into a space for exploring unseen meaning. Far from luring us into inertia, uncertainty is the mindset most needed in times of flux and a remarkable antidote to the narrow-mindedness of our day. In laboratories, political campaigns, and on the frontiers of artificial intelligence, Jackson meets the pioneers decoding the surprising gifts of being unsure. Each chapter examines a mode of uncertainty-in-action, from creative reverie to the dissent that spurs team success. Step by step, the art and science of uncertainty reveal being unsure as a skill set for incisive thinking and day-to-day flourishing.

Maggie Jackson is an award-winning author and journalist known for her pioneering writings on social trends, particularly technology’s impact on humanity. Winner of the 2020 Dorothy Lee Book Award for excellence in technology criticism, her book Distractedwas compared by FastCompany.com to Silent Spring for its prescient critique of technology’s excesses, named a Best Summer Book by the Seattle Post-Intelligencer, and was a prime inspiration for Google’s 2018 global initiative to promote digital well-being. Jackson is also the author of Living with Robots and The State of the American Mind. Her expertise has been featured in The New York Times, Business Week, Vanity Fair, Wired.com, O Magazine, and The Times of London; on MSNBC, NPR’s All Things Considered, Oprah Radio, The Takeaway, and on the Diane Rehm Show and the Brian Lehrer Show; and in multiple TV segments and film documentaries worldwide. Her speaking career includes appearances at Google, Harvard Business School, and the Chautauqua Institute. Jackson lives with her family in New York and Rhode Island.

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You're listening to the Michael Sherman Show. The Michael Sherber Show Uncertain, the wisdom and wonder of being unsure, yes, uncertain. Yeah, we're going to do a deep dive in that. I meant to mention that my next book has a long section on uncertainty of the future and

0:37.5

how it's pretty much impossible to predict things beyond a short time span and not because of a lack of tools or

0:46.1

technology for statistical modeling or whatever but that it's built into the system

0:51.1

itself. So tell us a little bit by yourself

0:54.3

and then how you got into being uncertain about uncertainty.

0:58.4

Yes, well, I come from a journalism background.

1:00.8

I've been a journalist and a columnist, both national columnist for

1:05.8

Associated Press and then a columnist for the Boston Globe, as well as stints overseas, which

1:10.8

gave me a kind of an interesting way to look at the meta picture as well as the specifics

1:17.6

of whatever I'm writing about. I thought that was a great. And so I had been doing a column on work-like balance.

1:27.2

It was one of the first in the country.

1:29.7

And it also included issues like workplace discrimination etc a while ago but I was more

1:36.0

and more interested in technology and how that was changing our lives.

1:41.3

At the time however however, you might recall, the technology writing was simply kind of a

1:48.4

gee whiz, here comes the panacea, or oh, chicken little, the sick guy is falling. the

1:55.0

Pannacea or oh chicken little the sick guy is falling and I really thought that you know someone from the

1:57.5

humanity should sit at the table someone who wasn't a programmer or

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someone who wasn't covering the business side of it.

2:03.2

So I began to write about those issues and that led to the book

2:06.2

Distracted, which was really about the erosion of attention and society.

2:11.1

The second anniversary, the second edition came out in 2018, so not that long ago.

2:17.0

And after that, well really this was the, I've written a trilogy of books. The first one was about the changing

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