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The Winter War: Lessons for Ukraine

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🗓️ 4 February 2022

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Molotov Cocktails, stealth skiing, and a ruined Birthday party for Stalin? What exactly happened in the Winter War of 1939-40 between Russia and Finland? This week James is joined by Elisabeth Braw from the American Enterprise Institute to discuss the Finnish-Russo war of the 20th Century and it's impact on geo-politics today. Together they cover Russia's unexpected loss, the advantages of fighting on Finnish turf, and how in the face of a foreign enemy, internal politics can be put aside to unite communities.


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0:00.0

Oh, he's cute. Mr. I can never sleep when I'm traveling. He's hugging his pillow like a sloth on a branch.

0:10.0

He couldn't sleep before. Now listen to him. Sounds like an elephant with a chest infection.

0:15.0

Well, they call him a dreamer. And now they're right.

0:19.0

All aboard, Mr. I can never sleep when I'm traveling.

0:23.0

Find all the comfort you need in the quiet lounge.

0:26.0

Piando Ferries, there is another way.

0:29.0

Hello everyone, I'm your host James Rogers and welcome back to warfare a

0:35.8

podcast that takes us deep into the history of wars that have shaped and changed our

0:40.0

modern world. This week I've been working on the Ukraine crisis, especially the use of

0:44.9

military drones in Ukraine as part of a NATO project that I work on. And it got me thinking,

0:50.0

what historical wars and battles can help us understand what's going on in Ukraine today,

0:55.1

especially as tensions continue to rise considerably with Russia.

0:59.7

To help us understand this, I've brought in expert security policy advisor and historian Elizabeth

1:05.4

Braw. Elizabeth has been working on the Winter War between the gigantic Soviet Union and

1:11.0

tiny Finland and has come up with some fascinating parallels that help us understand

1:15.4

first this unbelievable history of how Finland was victorious in freezing battles against the

1:21.4

USSR, and second how a small country with a small

1:25.2

military can hold off a vast nation with a superior military. Lessons that are

1:30.9

indeed pretty pertinent today.

1:33.0

So here is Elizabeth Braille on the Winter War.

1:36.0

Enjoy. Hi Elizabeth, welcome to the history hit Warfare podcast. We're here to talk about this amazing history that you've written. I can't wait to get into it. But before we do that, you are based at AI that's in Washington DC. What is AI?

2:07.5

A. E. I is the American Enterprise Institute. It's it's a large tank well, the office is in DuPont Circle, I must say a very palatial office, best office I've ever worked in, and it has a number of different research divisions.

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