The Willis derby and Gloucester’s mortgage advisor

Rugby Union Weekly

BBC

News, Sports, Sports News, Rugby

4.6 • 5.2K Ratings

🗓️ 12 January 2026

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Danny, Ugo and Chris review an eventful Champions Cup weekend that produced another big upset after Saracens stunned six-time champions Toulouse. They reflect on the battle between the two Willis brothers and if the result means Sarries are back to their best. Henry Pollock rekindled his love-hate relationship with the Bordeaux fans. We wonder if Damian Penaud is on some kind of assist bonus and we welcome our first ever mortgage advisor onto the pod. Will Crane has gone from the Champ to the Champions Cup after he answered an SOS call from George Skivington. He tells us all about his crazy start to 2026 and his love for the game.

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0:00.0	BBC Sounds, music, radio, podcasts.
0:07.1	The Traitors Uncloaked is the only place you'll see players react as they find out who's been deceiving them.
0:12.6	That is brilliant.
0:14.9	It's the only place for official behind the scenes deep dives into the latest plot twists.
0:19.3	And it's the only place where we chat to famous fans
0:21.9	and players from series gone by.
0:23.8	I wouldn't want to be a traitor.
0:25.3	Oh, it's the best part of.
0:26.3	That's what a traitor would say.
0:28.4	The traitors uncloked,
0:29.5	the official visualised companion podcast
0:31.5	with me, Ed Gamble.
0:33.2	Watch on Eye Player, listen for more on BBC Sounds.
0:36.8	Five Lives Rugby Union Weekly.
0:45.4	Chris Jones, Danny Care.
0:46.8	Bonjour.
0:47.6	Bonjour, bonjour.
0:49.2	She'd been skiing?
0:50.5	Oh, we, we.
0:52.3	Because Ashti was giving you some stick last last week that you're away all the time.
1:11.1	But he is the man who, if he's not here, he's in Dubai, do I mean? Like, he's, he's away. He's not here to defend himself, I. No, but also he was, I wasn't. No, you weren't, no. Yeah, I went skiing for the first time ever. How was it? How were you? Amazing. I've got the bug, I've got the ski bug.
1:11.1	So yeah, it was my wife's birthday, so nice treat, take her to ski and catch it with
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