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Steve Pine used to spend his summers fighting wildfires.

I did, I did it for 15 summers when I was young and then I wrote fire plans for three years to it Rocky Mountain National Park in one of Yellowstone.

So when he sees images like the ones coming out of Paradise, California this past week, cars rocketing through walls of fire, charred remains of houses and wildlife, he doesn't so much see the fire as feel it.

And when you're in and around the fire, all of your senses become overlooked. If you can't hear anything more, you can't see anything all you feel is heat.

The classic phrase, actually from the early 20th century, was that it was like a thousand trains rushing over a thousand steel trestles.

It's not an environment for making rational decisions.

Drivers on their way through the Sierra Nevada foothills used to pass this sign that read, may you find the town of Paradise to be all its name implies.

Now, Paradise is gone. That sign is burned down.

Dozens of people have died, many while trying to escape the flames, making this fire California's deadliest.

And Steve has this very particular perspective on what's happening here.

You don't assume that this is something that will happen in California, but it does. I mean it to repeatedly.

He's written the story of fire in America going back decades.

I can go back a hundred years and we've got this story of these kinds of fires burning and many of them are in the same places.

I mean they're the equivalent of fire floodplains and they're mapped. We know that.

So now that we're paying attention to this destruction in California, Steve feels sad. He feels shocked. But mostly he feels frustrated.

This is not new. We just saw it last fall. I'm not being snarky here. It's just how many times do we have to go through this?

This is like watching. I've come to think of these burning, these mass burnings as the counterpart to mass shootings.

I mean at some point, yeah, where's the tipping point? Well, without the tipping point was 20 years ago, 10 years ago.

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