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Welcome to From Beneath the Hollywood Sign.

If you love old movies, Hollywood history, or the golden age of filmmaking, you've come to the right place.

This is the podcast that talks about amazing stories of Tinseltown from another era and fascinating conversations with writer-producer Steve Kubine and actress writer Nan McNamara.

So Steve, did Ava Gardner

and Howard Hughes have a

good relationship? Well, they did

until he dislocated her jaw.

What? Well, don't worry. She hit him back with an ashtray.

From beneath the Hollywood sign is the

gin joint for you.

The... for you. ...for you. Hello, my friends, Sakuya here.

And I'm Gabi.

And welcome back to the podcast, my hoes.

Welcome back to our continuation on the saga of historical divorce.

I'm going to say this right now, my friends.

I apologize for two things. One, we are recording in our living room right now, my friends. I apologize for two things.

One, we are recording in our living room right now, which has much higher ceilings than our old place,

which means you might hear a slight echo, though my editor is going to do his absolute best in order to remove that.

The second thing is that I anticipated going into this whole divorce saga that we were going to do this in like one or two episodes.

And then I should have realized when you were covering a concept that is not exactly universal, but at least an idea of it is present in just about every single culture on earth throughout

all of history, you're not going to be able to get through that in like one or two

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