Well, it's the Wild West in American politics.

Literally, we're talking about the Wild West being California, our, well, at least when it comes

to mainland, U.S., are farthest western state, the most populated state in the nation,

and the most populated city in that state has a very hot

mayor race that we feel compelled to talk about. Great to have you with us, everybody. I'm

Jenna. This is smarter news. This is Mary Catherine Hamm, who is a friend of mine, but also a

commentator, analyst, writer, author, podcast hosts, et cetera, et cetera. The list is long. And that's why in

the middle of the night, sometimes we text each other different news stories because we like to nerd out

on different topics. And last night, this is the way this interview came together because I said to

Mary Catherine, you know, what do you think is going to happen in L.A.? And then I had this

moment where I thought, wait a minute, in the next several

weeks, because of the anniversary of the 250th birthday of America, I'm going to be talking

about George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, and Spencer Pratt. And how is

that the political reality? I don't know. And that's where it started, Mary Catherine. It felt

important to talk about now.

I think it is important to talk about.

There's some wild stuff going on.

Okay, speaking of wild stuff, let me just play this,

and then we're going to talk a little bit about this race.

Your political role model.

Jesus Christ.

Okay, I mean, that's what.

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