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The Rest Is Entertainment

The Wild West of Noughties Reality TV

The Rest Is Entertainment

Goalhanger

News, Books, Entertainment News, Arts, Tv & Film

4.34.2K Ratings

🗓️ 6 April 2026

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Why are our TVs being flooded with documentaries about the problematic reality shows of the 2000s? Do Ai companies really care about killing Hollywood? How did niche French Existentialist theatre from the 90s inspire the biggest reality hit in history? The biggest (and most shocking) reality TV shows of the 90s and 00s are getting the 'tell-all' documentary treatment. Why did our culture create such a toxic environment for contestants, and has anything really changed? Sora2, the supposed film studio killer, has been shuttered by OpenAI. Can Hollywood breathe a sigh of relief, or is it because they're irrelevant to the tech titans of Silicon Valley? The Rest is Entertainment is brought to you by Octopus Energy, Britain's most awarded energy supplier. Join The Rest Is Entertainment Club: Unlock the full experience of the show – with exclusive bonus content, ad-free listening, early access to Q&A episodes, access to our newsletter archive, discounted book prices with our partners at Coles Books, early ticket access to live events, and access to our chat community. Sign up directly at therestisentertainment.com For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to www.goalhanger.com Video Editor: Adam Thornton & Joey McCarthyAssistant Producer: Imee MarriottSenior Producer: Joey McCarthySocial Producer: Bex TyrrellExec Producer: Neil Fearn Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

The Rest is Entertainment is presented by Octopus Energy. Now, remember, Octopus Energy do something

0:07.4

really great. If they've got your birthday, when you call in for whatever reason to Octopus,

0:12.6

the whole music is the number one selling single from that year, the year of your 14th birthday.

0:19.8

And we discover, didn't we, that yours was the only way is up by Yaz and the plastic population.

0:24.9

We're going to discover mine now.

0:26.8

Yours is, I just called to Say I Love You by Stevie Wonder.

0:32.4

Okay.

0:33.3

Yes.

0:33.7

I prefer yours.

0:35.3

Do you think it's weird to have whole music, which is I just call to say, I love you?

0:39.6

Because, listen, and you know that I love Octopus Energy, but I will rarely ring them to tell them I love them. Yeah. Yeah, I would usually, but, you know, I'd just want to chat to them about something to do with my energy. Yeah. And I don't mean that sort of energy. Well, look, they can but surface the number one single of that year for you.

0:57.2

And you can always... And I don't mean that sort of energy. Well, look, they can but surface the number one single of that year for you.

0:57.0

And you can always choose not to have the music.

1:00.3

You can choose for no.

1:01.4

But I think only animals do that, as I've said.

1:04.1

And I want to go on the record as saying that.

1:10.8

This episode is brought to you by Airbnb. Now, Richard, you're mid-writing your book at the moment.

1:16.1

Tell me about it. Have you mastered your perfect creative conditions? Well, it's interesting because

1:21.5

first of you do need to change a scene sometimes. You know, you're getting a sort of a rut and you go,

1:25.4

oh no, hold on, I need to absolutely reset.

1:45.7

So we book Airbnb's because we can find a quiet one, which is really, really great. I can't write in hotels. Often we'll go somewhere where the book is set. So I'm doing We Solve Murders. At the moment, we stayed in a really lovely Airbnb down in the New Forest. Yeah, I need a bit of peace and quiet. I need an absolute change of scene and I just need a vibe.

1:47.4

So many writers try and come up with a version of a retreat. And like you say, there's something about it being in a real home, someone with a bit of sort of life to it that is creatively inspiring in a way that a hotel just isn't. I think exactly that. What I like with Airbnb is that you can look for guest favorites, which means you can pick somewhere that other guests have loved and recommended. I always do this. And you know that if other people have had a great time there, then you will too. So it's your own space in a place that is already a favourite in an area you love. What more could you ask for.

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