Hello, I'm Lale Arakoglu, with another episode of Women Who Travel.

Who doesn't look forward to summer swimming?

At the beach, in lakes and outdoor swimming pools.

But our guests today are more intrepid and

plunge into frigid temperatures for all manner of reasons. Later, we'll hear from author Dorf Nors,

who lives on a remote part of Denmark's west coast, about her relationship to the water.

But first, an author and podcaster who made it her mission to swim in every tidal pool

in Britain over the course of a year. Cold water swimming gives you an amazing mental clarity

that I had not been able to get through running, mindfulness, meditation, yoga, and suddenly

I found this thing that was able to deliver me a little bit of peace and

quiet from my grief. When you get in a pool, whether that's the sea, a tidal pool, a swimming

pool, you can have a splash around and be a child and that's amazing and that's beautiful and all

of us need to do that more. Maybe the other thing all of us need to do more is put our heads under water and scream a little bit as well.

Frere Bromley's The Tidal Year, a memoir of grief, swimming and sisterhood came out in May.

Grief was something I needed to experience, but in a safe place. And then suddenly I found tidal pools and became a bit obsessed with

them. Frea's memoir is about sharing her swimming adventures with her friend Miri. And she examines

how their friendship deepens because of it. When I first met Mary, we met on a swimming holiday,

actually. It was a group of 10 complete strangers. and it was honestly love at first sight,

and we just became completely obsessed with each other and the closest to friends.

Miri has lost her sister.

Freya's brother, Tom, died of cancer in 2016 when he was 19.

I guess when I'm swimming, I'm a version of myself that knew my brother Tom,

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