Before you listen to this BBC podcast, I want to tell you why I love podcasting. Hi, my name's Tommy Dixon,

and I make podcasts for the BBC. I'm a big fan of stories, always loved a good book. But when I started

commuting for my first job, I discovered podcasts. I was blown away by how a creative idea and the right

mixture of sounds could take you into a whole new world full of incredible stories. You know, the type that make you go, wow. And that kind of inspired me to

give it a go myself, which, to cut a long story short, led to a BBC training scheme and a whole

new career giving other people that exact same feeling. So if you want to hear amazing stories

that make you go, wow, like I did, they're just a tap or click away on BBC

sounds. You're listening to an episode of Ramblings from BBC Radio 4.

Well, having enjoyed two walks in Spain, two walks in France, one on the coast of Wales.

This week on Ramblings, we've come to Ireland.

And just under an hour south of Dublin to the Wicklow Mountains.

It's amazing, actually, when you get out of Dublin, how quickly the countryside turns into wilderness.

It's got a wonderful unkempt feel to it, just as if it's got out of bed and it hasn't brushed its hair.

And today I'm walking with a botanist and broadcaster called Aena Nilauna.

Great to meet you.

How are you doing?

Not too bad.

Now you've chosen this walk.

We're going to have quite a climb, aren't we?

We're going up into the mountains.

We're going up into the mountains.

But then I'd be glad to know that all the climbing here at the upper lake in Glendalock and we're climbing up one side of it which is

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