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A Way with Words - language, linguistics, and callers from all over

The Whole Kit and Caboodle (Rebroadcast) - 16 July 2012

A Way with Words - language, linguistics, and callers from all over

A Way with Words

Society & Culture, Language Learning, Education

4.62.3K Ratings

🗓️ 16 July 2012

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Nothing brightens up an email like an emoticon. But is it appropriate to include a smiley face in an email to your boss? Also, what do time management experts mean when they say you should start each day by “eating the frog”? Plus, the story behind the phrase “the whole kit and caboodle,” and some book recommendations for language lovers. If you see the trash can as half-full, are you an optimist or a pessimist? A puzzle involving breakfast cereals, the difference between “adept” and “deft”, and the origin of the political term “solon”. And what in the world is a “hoorah’s nest”?  Hear hundreds of free episodes and learn more on the A Way with Words website: https://waywordradio.org. Be a part of the show: call or text 1 (877) 929-9673 toll-free in the United States and Canada; elsewhere in the world, call or text +1 619 800 4443. Send voice notes or messages via WhatsApp 16198004443. Email words@waywordradio.org. Copyright Wayword, Inc., a 501(c)(3) corporation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:23.0

And I'm Martha Barnett.

0:24.3

I was writing some business correspondence recently in email, and I made a comment that I

0:29.5

thought was witty and charming.

0:32.0

But then I caught myself just in case adding a little smiley face.

0:35.7

But then I had to stop and think, wait, what am I doing?

0:38.4

This is business correspondence. I would never, ever put a smiley face in a printed letter. What

0:43.4

am I thinking? And then, Grant, that's when it hit me that in email correspondence, there's a kind

0:49.0

of boundary line. You know, there's a point that you may or may not reach where you feel comfortable

0:54.1

adding those little symbols in business correspondence.

0:57.9

You might call that point the rubicon of the emoticon, that point which you cross.

1:03.0

And there was actually an article in the New York Times about this recently by Judith Newman.

1:06.4

And she was noting that many people are saying more and more emoticons are creeping into my business correspondence.

1:13.0

Some people like it because it helps them communicate and other people just say it just makes their skin crawl.

1:19.8

And in fact, we put something on our Facebook page and, boy, we heard from the skin crawlers.

1:24.3

Yeah, most of the people on there said absolutely not.

1:26.6

Absolutely not.

1:27.0

Don't use that in correspondence with me. Right. I can see a small reason for it. If you do have a personal relationship that, I mean, you might sign your emails love or, you know, what if you work for your father or, you know, partners with your sister or something. Yeah, I don't know. There's a gradation there between formality and informality, and some workplaces are incredibly informal, right? Yeah, yeah, but I mean, if you're writing somebody you want money from or... Well, let the other person cross that Rubicon first, is what I say, right? As long as they're not using them, you shouldn't use them either. It feels significant, you know, when you get a smiley face from somebody who never smiles in person and all of a sudden there's one in your email, it's weird.

2:06.6

I do smile sometimes. It's weird. I remember your first smiley face you ever sent me, Grant. I thought our relationship had changed. It's true.

2:15.6

But I didn't put you on the Christmas card list. 8779-9-6673 or email Words at waywardradio.org. What do you think? Hello, you have a way with words. Hey, how you doing? This is Ryan. I'm in Camp Pillilson. Oh, wow. Great. Just down the road. What can we help you with? Well, I had a topic that I wanted to discuss. It was actually the rank of petty officer in the Navy. Uh-huh. Petty officer? Yeah, and basically, I've been in the Marines for 11 years now, and we call all of our enlisted in the rank of E4 to E9, non-commissioned officers. And basically what that means is that you have leadership, but you just don't have a commission.

2:53.7

In a Navy, they say petty officer.

2:55.7

Now, I served aboard three naval vessels wearing, you know, petty officers from the rank of first class

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