Welcome to the Underworld Podcast where we dive into the secret lives of transnational criminal organizations.

I am your host Danny Golds and I'm here with a special guest today.

What do I call you, the Wantan Don, Don, Don, Don,

D'I'm.

You can call me the Wantan Don.

Hey, how are you? Yeah. and today we have a pretty wild story. It's going to make sense why he's here. It's one about international expansion about ancient codes but mostly, mostly it's a beautiful story of tolerance about cross-cultural

fusion that's just progressive as hell frankly. People from different countries

and ethnicities just getting along. This is the story of

White Devil John, the only white Massachusetts towny to rise high in the world of

Chinese organized crime. And Donnie here shares a lot of similarities with John Willis, the man at the center of the story,

in that he's a white Boston townie who has also found his way into insular elements of Chinese society.

Yes, I mean I don't know if I'd call myself a Boston Towny but I'm a

masshole who has lived in China for most of the last 10 years.

Right, so a lot of similarities there.

And the John Willa story, it's actually like nothing I've ever heard before.

And I have you to thank for that, because I had never it before you told me and John Willis is for lack of a better word he is a masshole a towny

You know the kind of guy with like a chin-strapped beard backwards fitted socks hat, thick Boston accent and like wearing a

hoodie, reeling to hockley and likely to punch you in the face in like Cambridge or Somerville,

like a character out of a Ben Affleck movie, basically, is what I'm trying to say.

And Willis is that to a T.

And when he gets started hanging out in Boston, he's a big boy, He's lifting weights. He's doing steroids. He looks

older than his 16 years. And he's able to lie his way into a job as a bouncer at a bar near

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