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The Investigation

"The Whistleblower Did Everything Right, and Should Be Protected"

The Investigation

ABC News

News, Politics

3.6739 Ratings

🗓️ 7 October 2019

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Coming on the heels of ABC News' exclusive reporting that a second whistleblower has stepped forward to express concerns about President's Trump's July 25th phone call with the President of Ukraine, the team from "The Investigation" gets the very latest from the reporter who broke the story. Brad Moss, a lawyer who specializes in whistleblower law, also weighs in on his concerns about protecting the whistleblower's identity in light of President Trump's claims that he deserves the right to confront his accuser. "If the president wants to be able to invoke his sixth amendment rights to confront his accusers, he can have DOJ rescind the memo saying he can't be indicted and we can try this through the criminal process. I don't think he wants that," Moss tells "The Investigation."

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to The Investigation. I'm Chris Vlasto, Senior Executive Producer here at ABC News,

0:11.6

and I'm joined here by my colleagues John Santucci, who's one of the lead reporters covering

0:15.8

the Trump investigation, along with his colleague, Catherine Foulders, who's concentrating on

0:20.7

Congress and the White House,

0:22.3

as a reporter on this story. There were a lot of developments this weekend in the impeachment inquiry,

0:27.1

especially one big exclusive that appeared on the Sunday show this week with George Stephanopoulos.

0:32.6

ABC News has learned that the legal team representing the first whistleblower is now representing a second whistleblower.

0:38.5

Attorney Mark Zaid told me that this second whistleblower is a member of the intelligence

0:42.3

community with firsthand information on some of the allegations at issue.

0:46.1

And the reporter behind the scenes who helped break that story is a member of our team, James Gordon Meek,

0:52.1

and he is a specialist in national security issues. James,

0:56.1

tell us about the story and what is the significance that there is a second whistleblower.

1:01.5

So we knew that there were probably more than six or seven because the whistle, the first whistleblower

1:08.6

and his complaint to the intelligence community's inspector general,

1:12.0

the internal watchdog for all the intelligence agencies in the United States, had said that there

1:18.8

were more than half a dozen officials who had expressed concerns about the president's dealings with

1:24.8

Ukraine and his phone call with the Ukrainian president. So we were told

1:29.0

early on that the inspector general is part of his initial 14-day preliminary review of the

1:34.6

allegations had interviewed multiple witnesses. So that would be presumably the whistleblower,

1:40.1

the first one, and other people who had expressed concern to the first whistleblower, if that's

1:46.1

not too confusing.

1:47.5

But now we have a second whistleblower.

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