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The Whistleblower: An Interview with Thomas Drake

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Education, History, News

4.41.7K Ratings

🗓️ 22 December 2015

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

SPY Historian Vince Houghton sat down with Thomas Drake, former senior executive of the NSA – and whistleblower – who in 2010 was indicted on 10 felony counts; charges that would have carried decades of prison time had Drake been convicted. Instead, in early June 2011, the government dropped all of the charges and agreed not to seek any jail time in return for Drake's guilty plea to a misdemeanor of misusing the NSA’s computer system. Although the legal case was settled, the controversy would continue, as a new wave of whistleblowers (or leakers – depending on your perspective) burst on to the public scene, and dramatically changed the way many Americans viewed the power of their government.

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hunters. security today. Hi and welcome to Spycast from the Secret Files of the International Spy Museum in Washington, D.C.

1:05.6

I'm Dr. Vince Hooten, the Museum's historian and curator. Every week, the museum brings you

1:11.0

interesting conversations with authors,

1:13.2

scholars, and practitioners who live

1:16.2

in the world of global espionage.

1:18.7

Join us as we take a closer look at the secret world of intelligence.

1:29.0

We usually begin these podcasts with a biography of our guest, but today his biography is the heart of the

1:34.5

podcast so I'll give an abbreviated version. We are joined by Thomas Drake

1:38.6

a former senior executive of the National Security Agency who in 2010 was indicted on 10 felony counts,

1:46.1

five counts of willful retention of national defense information, which is a modification

1:50.1

of the Espionage Act of 1917, one count of instructing justice, and four counts of

1:55.0

making false statements. Charges that would have carried decades of prison time had

1:59.3

Drake been convicted. Instead, in early June 2011, the government dropped all the charges against Drake and agreed

2:06.7

not to seek any jail time in return for Drake's agreement to plead guilty to a misdemeanor

2:11.6

of misusing the NSA's computer system.

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