The Wheel of Chaos and Arsenal's Champions League charge
Hawksbee and Jacobs Daily
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4.5 • 808 Ratings
🗓️ 15 April 2026
⏱️ 43 minutes
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Max Rushden and Charlie Baker are in the hot seat today as we debut our brand-new feature: a spinning wheel that puts the show’s fate in the hands of our callers.
Joining the fun is comedian and Arsenal fan Jacob Hawley, who shares his nerves and expectations ahead of the Gunners' big Champions League fixture.
To round things off, David Olusoga stops by for a brilliantly surreal chat covering everything from the backstabbing on The Traitors to the high-stakes world of sandwich fillings.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, you're listening to The H&J Daily. Max Rush and Charlie Baker with you on a Wednesday. |
| 0:03.9 | What a show it was. Amazing. And we launched a brand new quiz called The Wheel of Football. And for the tape, we're just about to play it. It may be the greatest, it may be the worst quiz of all time. You never know. But you never know. You have to try things out. Jacob Pauli was on about Arsenal. |
| 0:21.0 | I know they might have played sporting by the time you listen to it, |
| 0:24.7 | but he was really good. |
| 0:26.1 | And David Olusuga came on and talked us about sandwiches. |
| 0:29.6 | Yes, the invention of the sandwich. |
| 0:31.2 | Imagine if no one had ever tried a sandwich out. |
| 0:33.7 | Yeah. |
| 0:34.3 | But yeah, we covered a lot of bass with him, |
| 0:35.8 | and it was very interesting. |
| 0:36.8 | Here it all is. Good afternoon, everyone. Good afternoon, Charlie. Afternoon, Max. Yeah. New game. I mean, I would have said there was a time when it was cheese and pickle. And then I had a real sort of chicken mayo phase. Really? A bit too white chicken mayo, isn't it? Very bland sandwich. A bit of pepper in it, maybe. I mean, it depends. Yeah, I mean, obviously, you know, there's chicken mayo and there's chicken mayo. Yeah, of course. Yeah. I'm talking an elite, you know, artisan, perhaps on a sort of sourdough bag. That's nice. I think that's a bit sloppy. You can't beat plain white bread, like normal white bread. Yeah. Butter, ham, a little bit of mustard. That cannot be beaten as a sandwich. Do you know what this feels like to me? A roast beef and horseradish. This feels to me like breakfast show guest hasn't turned up. |
| 1:27.7 | Yeah, that's true. |
| 1:28.4 | That's what it feels like to me. We're about one minute away from sandwich footballers. Okay, go on then. It doesn't matter. I don't mind. I don't mind it. People all like it, weren't they? Brian Cobby. There we are, copy. Okay. Okay, yeah, very good. Anyway, you know, what you wanted to do a text topic today. I did. You've got a really good idea. I met a hero yesterday, Max. I met Alan Shear yesterday. And, you know, when you work in this game, as I appeared to. In show business. Everything is show business, of course. |
| 2:04.1 | Sports media game, though, you often meet heroes. |
| 2:05.2 | We're about to talk to Mark Lawson. |
| 2:09.7 | Who was on my wall as a child in the, in that 80s? A poster of him or was he? |
| 2:11.0 | Not just him. |
| 2:14.2 | Not just a big picture of Mark Lawrenson On my wall as a 10-year-old. |
| 2:18.6 | Okay. |
| 2:19.2 | Did you have one of those, you know, like a... |
| 2:20.8 | I had a team poster of the poor Hanson, Lawrence. |
| 2:25.5 | It wasn't like a shrine. |
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