Welcome to Kelly Corrigan Wenders, I'm Kelly Corrigan and this week I'm wondering how

the ways we typically think and learn and come to conclusions might be getting in the

way of our ability to make more refined and considered choices.

My conversation partner is a researcher and an academic, his name is Daryl Vantongeran

and he studies flexibility of mind, which is more or less knowing that we have blind spots,

that there's always some information that's missing, that there's more to understand,

and quite often legitimate evidence worth taking in, evidence that might bump us off our

current position.

So join us for part one of a month long conversation about the what, why and how of intellectual

humility.

We'll be right back with Kelly Corrigan Wenders.

Welcome back to Kelly Corrigan Wenders, I'm Kelly Corrigan and today I'm talking to

Daryl Vantongeran about how we come to conclusions and what, if anything, can interrupt the creation

of overconfident, underresearched ironclad and divisive by nature convictions.

Kelly teaches at Hope College in Michigan and researches the social motivation for meaning

and its relation to virtues and morals.

He's also a runner and Denver Broncos fan and an amateur cook.

So Daryl, I think the heart of intellectual humility in terms of just the idea, what

it is, is that all knowledge is partial.

Is that right?

That's right.

Is that the headline?

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