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🗓️ 26 August 2025
⏱️ 70 minutes
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In this conversation, you'll discover:
• How to spot Wetiko when it's running you and why seeing it clearly breaks the pattern
• The quantum nature of this mind virus and how your healing shifts the collective field
• Why your deepest struggles are actually revelations and how to extract their medicine
Have you ever wondered why the same destructive patterns keep showing up in your family, generation after generation, like some kind of toxic inheritance you never asked for?
Growing up, I knew addiction ran in my family. I knew I came from trauma. It was there in the stories, in the family history, but my dad had been sober most of my life. At least the life I could remember. And maybe that's exactly why I felt immune to it. I was aware. I was conscious. I was going to be different. I'd learned from the past without having to live it.
Until I wasn't different at all.
Until I found myself eight years deep in my own eating disorder, trapped in cycles that felt completely beyond my control. Wondering how the hell I'd ended up becoming the very thing I thought I'd escaped. This wasn't just personal failure. This was something way bigger than me.
What I was experiencing has a name. Indigenous wisdom keepers have known this for centuries. They called it Wetiko. A cannibalistic mind virus that feeds on human consciousness, spreading from person to person, generation to generation.
And right now? This thing is everywhere.
Look around. Families torn apart by politics. Communities fracturing. We're destroying our planet while building technologies that could save us or kill us. Depression and anxiety rates climbing every year. We keep treating these like separate problems. They're not. They're all symptoms of the same infection.
Today our guest is Paul Levy. A pioneer in the field of spiritual emergence, Paul is a wounded healer in private practice, assisting others who are also awakening to the dreamlike nature of reality. He has authored six books, three of which are on the Wetiko mind virus, and is the founder of the "Awaken in the Dream Community" in Portland, Oregon.
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0:00.0 | Have you ever noticed or wondered why? |
0:05.0 | The same destructive patterns keep showing up in your family, generation after generation, |
0:10.0 | like some kind of toxic inheritance you never asked for. |
0:14.0 | Growing up, I knew addiction ran in my family. |
0:17.0 | I knew I came from trauma. |
0:19.0 | It was there in the stories, in the family history, |
0:22.8 | but my dad had been sober most of my life, at least the life I could remember. And maybe that's |
0:28.3 | exactly why I felt immune to it. I was aware. I was conscious. I was going to be different. |
0:35.6 | I had learned from the past without having to live it. |
0:38.3 | Until I wasn't different at all. |
0:42.3 | Until I found myself eight years deep in my own eating disorder, |
0:46.3 | trapped in cycles that felt completely beyond my control, |
0:50.3 | wondering how the hell I'd ended up becoming the very thing I thought I'd escaped. |
0:55.6 | This wasn't just personal failure. It was something way bigger than me. What I was experiencing |
1:01.8 | isn't just individual dysfunction or bad choices. Indigenous wisdom keepers have known this for |
1:08.4 | centuries. They called it Wattico, a cannibalistic |
1:11.9 | mind virus that literally feeds on human consciousness. It spreads from person to person, |
1:18.7 | generation to generation. And right now, this thing is everywhere. Look around. Families torn |
1:26.3 | apart by politics. Communities fracturing. We're destroying our planet |
1:31.4 | while building technologies that could save us or maybe kill us. Depression and anxiety rates |
1:37.2 | climbing every year. And we keep treating these like separate problems, but they're not. They're all symptoms of the same infection. |
1:47.0 | But here's what ancient traditions knew. This virus doesn't just destroy. It's the catalyst |
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