My name is Shay. I work as a clinical social worker and I do telehealth therapy with adults. I tend to work with people who have trauma that they want to address and trying to heal from that. People who have addictions. And I love to work with middle-aged women who are going through perimenopause.

I'm Jane Marie, and this is The Dream.

Today, we're talking to one of you, one of our listeners.

Shea called our tip line, 323-248-1488, after attending an online course a few months ago that really rubbed her the wrong way,

just like super sketchy.

So sketchy, in fact, that I didn't even finish listening to the message before calling Shay and asking for an interview.

As a therapist, Shay needed to take this class to earn continuing education credits.

In the state of Ohio for the social work board, which is the CSWMFT board, or counselor's social

work, marriage and family therapist board of Ohio, you have to have 30 CEUs every two years. Those are what we have to have in order

to continue to have our license. And this training that I went to offered more than that,

actually. And that's a big deal because one, you know that the board has signed off and said,

hey, this is a legitimate training.

You're going to learn something from it.

And you're going to get this credit that then you can say, hey, I've done this thing.

I've ticked these boxes.

That is different than certification.

That's continuing ed.

That's what you need to maintain your license for the state.

Every state is different.

Certification is, hey, we're selling a certification. And if you take this course and do these things,

we're going to give you this pretty little thing that says you're certified by us in this.

Right. Anybody can sell a certification. It's just a thing that you get that might make you feel more legitimate or you might, you might think it makes your clients think you're more legitimate.

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