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The Weird Way Americans Talk About Ukraine As War Looms

Angry Planet

Matthew Gault

War, Politics, Conflict, Government, History, News

4.3882 Ratings

🗓️ 14 February 2022

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Ukraine. Things are changing rapidly, but at this moment the Kremlin has the country surrounded. It’s conducting military drills in the Black Sea, marshaling troops in neighboring Belarus, and recalling mercenaries from Africa. Recently Putin even made a rape joke during a press conference to imply what he wanted from Ukraine.


It doesn’t look good. But to hear Ben & Jerry's Ice cream tell it, this is all because of the imperial U.S.-led aggression in Eastern Europe. Why does it seem like some Americans, from right-wing pundits to your terminally online socialist friend, can’t seem to take the Kremlin’s threats seriously?


With us today to answer that question is Christopher Atwood. Atwood senior advisor at the Souspilnist Foundation in Kyiv. He’s lived in both Russia and Ukraine.


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0:00.0

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0:05.1

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0:25.0

Frankly, that seems to be the problem.

0:31.0

Welcome to Angry Planet.

0:34.0

Hello,

0:37.0

and I'm Matthew Galt. Jason Fields is still on

0:46.5

sabbatical. Ukraine, things are changing rapidly, but at this moment the

0:51.5

Kremlin has the country surrounded. It's conducting military

0:54.5

drills in the Black Sea, marshalling troops and neighboring Belarus and

0:57.3

recalling mercenaries from Africa. Recently Putin even made a rape joke during a press conference to imply what he wanted from Ukraine,

1:06.0

which is all to say it doesn't look good, but to hear Ben and Jerry's ice cream tell it,

1:10.0

this is all because of the imperial US-led aggression in Eastern Europe.

1:14.6

Why does it seem like some Americans from right-wing pundits to your terminally online

1:19.0

socialist friends can't seem to take the Kremlin's threats seriously.

1:23.8

With us today to answer that question is Christopher Atwood.

1:27.0

Atwood is a senior advisor at the Sospilenist Foundation in Kiev.

1:30.5

He's lived in both Russia and Ukraine. Sir, thank you so much for joining us.

1:35.3

Thank you for having me. All right, so I want to introduce the audience to you a little bit

1:41.1

here at the top, kind of get your credentials in order, so to speak.

1:44.8

First of all, you lived in Russia for a few years, right?

1:48.6

That is correct. I actually spent some time first in Kyiv.

1:53.6

Then I moved to Donutsk, this is around 2010-2011.

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