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Hello, here is the episode of Newscast, which we recorded on Thursday evening, which was broadcast on BBC One after question time with Fiona Bruce.

And it's the usual get-together of the newscast family, where we just put our heads together and work out the implications of all the things that have happened in the news this week.

And of course it's dominated by one big story, the revelations from the Epstein files and the political ramifications in the UK.

So that is what you will hear on this episode of Newscast.

Newscast from the BBC.

Fat boy sliver me in the classroom doing our violin lessons. I was the tattletail in the class. Can I have an apology, please? I trust almost nobody. That daddy has to sometimes do strong language. Next time in Moscow. I feel delulu with no solulu. Take me down to Downey Street. Let's go have a tour. Blimey. Hello, it's Adam in the newscast studio. And it's Chris in the studio. And it's Alex in the studio. And it's Daniela in the studio. And it's interesting having you two sat opposite me because Daniela, I feel you've been covering the fallout from the Epstein files for, well, like a decade or more now almost. It feels like it. Yeah. And it's come and gone politics, but it's now really smashed into British politics. It's interesting to have the two of you here and you as well. Yeah, I was just about to say, Alex was really boring. He's that next to me. No, it's because they're in my, they're the visual representation of the two worlds. I believe you, honestly. Right. Anyway, Alex. So,

I'm very interesting.

Give me a way of working out how much trouble Kira Stama is in, but without

sounding like somebody going on social media who's saying, oh, he's going to have to resign by tomorrow lunchtime.

Like what's a good way of working out where he is?

All right. So let me just tell you one thing that happened today, which I think was a sign of just

how seriously Kirsta Marma and his team are taking this moment. They were due to do a big speech

talking about pride and unity in local communities. And what happened? He had to rip up the top

of that speech

and totally rewrite it to address head on the questions that are swirling about his judgment

and leadership.

And that to me is a clear sign that aside from the million and one different perspectives

you'll get either on social media or even talking to Labour MPs,

that within the number 10 operation themselves, they recognise that this is a real moment of vulnerability and they had to do something about it. And then, Chris, two things, because you were at that speech in Hastings. One, what was it like in the room when he did the apology? What was his demeanour like? And then what was it like when journalists after journalist after journalist was just really being quite forensic about what he knew when.

So the first thing was the room was full. The room was not really big enough for the number of journalists who were there

because, you know, they hadn't anticipated it would be as newsworthy as it clearly was. I thought Kirstalma was

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