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So James, I was reading this really interesting article on the BBC News website, full of interesting articles,

but this one in particular caught my eye.

And it was by the BBC's international editor, Jeremy Bowen.

And it was sort of reflections about the various wars that he's seen and experience in his reporting in the

Gulf and the kind of echoes of where we're at now. Yeah. And I mean, goodness knows how many

is he experience as well, many, many wars. And the thing about Jeremy is he's seen so much

for so long with his own eyes that his take is really, really worth listening to. Nothing beats that on the ground reporting. He was on the Today programme on Radio 4 talking about it, reading out this article essentially. It was 11 minutes long and you think, well, that's an awful long time for one person to talk. I was just sitting listening to it, thinking this is really fascinating. Totally. And it is for that very reason that we nabbed him to talk to us on this episode of Newscast. Newscast from the BBC. Fat boy sliver me in the classroom doing our violin lessons. I was the tattletail in the class. Can I have an apology, please? I trust almost nobody. That daddy has to sometimes do strong language. Next time in Moscow. I feel delulu with no salulu. Take me down to Downey Street. Let's go have a tour. Blimey. Hello, it's James in the studio. And it's Alex in the studio. I'm Chris in the studio. And Jeremy's here too. In the studio. And the only guy wearing a tie. Well noted. As is appropriate for your age. Thank you very much. Dress your age. That's what they say, actually. So. I got my state pension this month. Congratulations. Thank you. Here on Newscast, this week, we've been covering a lot of aspects of the war in Iran. And Jeremy, I know you've been thinking, talking of age, about this particular moment from

1991.

And there's another way for the bloodshed to stop, and that is for the Iraqi military and the Iraqi

people to take matters into their own hands and force Saddam Hussein, the dictator, to step

aside and then comply with the United Nations resolutions

and rejoin the family of peace-loving nations.

It's a long time ago.

Not everyone will remember that.

Who is that and what is it?

That is the first President Bush,

first President George Bush.

In February 1991, nine days before the ground off

offensive started in the first Gulf War, which was to remove Iraq from Kuwait. And he was at the

Raytheon factory in Massachusetts where they make the Patriot missiles. Now the Patriot missile, which is this anti-missile

interceptor, and now is still very much a very important thing in Ukraine and in this Iran war,

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