The Wealth Ladder With Nick Maggiulli
Jill on Money with Jill Schlesinger
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🗓️ 15 August 2025
⏱️ 17 minutes
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Summary
Today we're joined by Nick Maggiulli, Chief Operating Officer for Ritholtz Wealth Management LLC, to discuss his recently released book, The Wealth Ladder: Proven Strategies for Every Step of Your Financial Life.
The book is not a get-rich-quick scheme or a one-size-fits-all solution to your money problems. It’s a new philosophy for thinking about money altogether, and it breaks wealth into six distinct levels, each demanding its own strategy. What works at Level 1 won’t cut it at Level 6, and vice versa.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Jill on Money Show. |
| 0:05.5 | It's Friday, August 15th. |
| 0:07.5 | And we've got a special treat for you today because, you know, Mark and I are heading out on vacation. |
| 0:12.2 | I want to leave with a bang. |
| 0:13.8 | We have a guest. |
| 0:15.3 | His name is Nick Majuli. |
| 0:17.0 | He is the chief operating officer and data scientist at Ritt Holtz Wealth Management. |
| 0:22.7 | Now, why is he on? |
| 0:24.0 | Not for that job. |
| 0:25.2 | Because he wrote a really interesting book. |
| 0:27.8 | It is called The Wealth Ladder. |
| 0:30.4 | The subtitle is Proven Strategies for Every Step of Your Financial Life. |
| 0:35.8 | The book is essentially a framework for understanding how to build |
| 0:40.8 | wealth one step at a time. So what are the wealth ladders? He identifies the wealth ladders at |
| 0:48.2 | level one, a net worth of less than $10,000. Level two is $10,000 to $100,000, and level three is $100,000 to $1 million. |
| 1:01.6 | If you look at the number of households that occupy those first three levels, it's most of the |
| 1:07.2 | United States. The next four levels really take a jump up. Now, level four is a net worth of |
| 1:14.0 | $1 to $10 million. That is 16.3% of U.S. households, 21 million households. Level five, that seems |
| 1:24.6 | a little bit nosebleedy. 10 million to 100 million. That's about 1.7% of |
| 1:30.8 | U.S. households or 2 million households. And of course, the Uber, Uber, Uber rich, that's level |
| 1:36.6 | six, a net worth of more than $100 million. That's just 10,000 U.S. households, and it's a fraction. It's like 700th of 1% |
| 1:48.5 | of the people out there. For this program, we're going to start at level four, but if you really |
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