The Way Love Goes w/ Brat + Judy
Keep it Positive, Sweetie
The Black Effect Podcast Network and iHeartPodcasts
4.9 • 2.3K Ratings
🗓️ 22 February 2026
⏱️ 41 minutes
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Summary
Host Chrystal Renee welcomes Debra (Da Brat) and Judy to the Keep It Positive Sweetie Show for a real conversation about building happiness on purpose through love, partnership, accountability, and everyday choices that protect home. They share why they’ve been quieter online, expound on motherhood, staying present, and keeping parts of their son’s life private, while still finding a middle ground with content. They talk about having a baby later in life, using Judy’s eggs with Debra carrying the pregnancy, and how becoming parents has softened Debra and helped her let go of survival mode and old habits from being an artist and growing up in Chicago. Judy shares her journey from doing hair as a child in New Orleans to building Kaleidoscope, including how Miracle Drops started after a client returned with damage that needed help. The couple previews their book, “The Way Love Goes,” out February 3, 2026 (pre-orders available), explaining that relationships aren’t always 50/50 and that partners should lean into each other’s strengths instead of fighting for control. They keep it honest about conflicts like jealousy, old messages, and even phones getting thrown, and how they’ve learned to cool down, communicate, and not go to bed angry. They also talk about keeping your identity in a relationship, with Debra encouraging Judy to take time for herself, while Judy opens up about the weight of running a company without investors and having to absorb costly mistakes as the owner.
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| 0:00.0 | Calling all my sweeties to the forefront. |
| 0:02.0 | I'm your host Chris Renee Hazel and this is the Keep It Posit Sweetie Show. |
| 0:07.0 | Welcome to the Keep It Posit Sweetie Show, the place where we heal, grow, and learn together. |
| 0:14.0 | Today's guests are DeBrett and Judy. |
| 0:17.0 | DeBrett and Judy are a couple people have grown to love watching, but today's conversation |
| 0:22.9 | is about what it takes to feel happiness on purpose. We're talking love, partnership, accountability, |
| 0:28.8 | and everyday choices that protect home. Welcome to the Kip's sofa, DeBrat, and Judy. |
| 0:36.5 | Hey ladies. Oh, we're not supposed to. I'm sorry. No, I love that. We need the energy. That's good. Come on now. Y'all brought good energy from the moment you walked in. Good. We did. I appreciate it. I have been admirers and fans of y'all's first since you got together and then Brad, like, since I was a kid. Thank you. I don't know if I told you this. |
| 0:54.8 | And I was like, you know how you meet somebody? |
| 0:56.1 | I'm like, did I say that out loud? |
| 1:08.5 | I think when I met y'all at Tyler's house, I was like, I used to write your rap lyrics down on paper. And then, like, I was like, Crystal, what? No, it's okay. I appreciate that. It didn't seem weird. |
| 1:09.4 | Okay, you didn't. |
| 1:11.8 | Okay, you know how, like, after you play something, you're like, was that too much? |
| 1:12.7 | No, no. |
| 1:13.9 | It don't bother me at all. |
| 1:14.8 | I appreciate it. It didn't seem weird. Okay, you didn't, okay. You know, like, after you play something, you're like, was that too much? |
| 1:11.6 | No, no. |
| 1:12.6 | It don't bother me at all. |
| 1:13.6 | I appreciate it. |
| 1:14.6 | No, I did. I was happy to meet you that day. Yes, no. It was like we have been following each other for a long time and finally got to put, you know, exactly. No, for sure. Judy, you have grown a multi-billion-dollar company, Empire, from your salon roots. |
| 1:28.8 | Speak that into existence. |
| 1:29.9 | She said multi-billion. |
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