Welcome to the Wave Slates podcast about gender, feminism, and the business of menopause.

Every episode you get a new pair of women to talk about the thing we can't get off our minds

and today you've got me, Emily Peck, co-host of Slate Money and a correspondent at Axios,

and later in the show I'm going to be joined by Amy Laraca, a writer who contributes to the

New York Times and is also writing a book about the wellness industry. They used to call menopause

the change, and as Amy points out in a wonderful piece she wrote for the Times last month,

quote, whenever a thing is known by a euphemism, it's probably a thing that makes people squirm.

But now, Gen X women are entering menopause and prompted by our Gen Z daughters, the way we talk

about menopause is also undergoing a change. Menopause is now being discussed openly and by some

very high profile women, Gwyneth Paltrow, Katie Curric, Supermodels from the 90s. Oh, and they're

not only talking about menopause, certainly a pro feminist state of affairs, they're also trying

to profit from menopause, and that's a trickier move.

So coming up on the show, a deep dive into what Amy calls the menopause gold rush.

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Welcome back to the waves. I'm here with Amy, who is a contributor to the New York Times,

and is working on a book about wellness. Hello. Hi, so I wanted Amy to just before we get into

the details here and the supermodels from the 90s talking about menopause. If you could just

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