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The Waves: The Case For Taking A Sabbatical

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🗓️ 12 October 2023

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

On this week’s episode of The Waves: the case for taking a sabbatical. 

Host TK Dutes speaks with author and former television writer Patty Lin on her latest book End Credits: How I Broke Up With Hollywood. Lin worked in some of the most notable writers' rooms like Friends, Freaks and Geeks, Desperate Housewives and Breaking Bad. But when she hit a breaking point, she made a big change and stopped working for an entire year. After that? Her relationship with work–and everything else–transformed.

In Slate Plus: Patty Lin on how her closest relationships changed after going on sabbatical

If you liked this episode, check out: Female CEOs Can’t Save Us

Podcast production by Vic Whitley-Berry with editorial oversight by Daisy Rosario and Alicia Montgomery.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Waves, Slate's podcast about gender, feminism, and unapologetic, transformative life shifts.

0:11.2

Every episode, you get a new pair of feminists to talk about the thing we can't get off our minds.

0:16.0

And today, you've got me, TK. Dutest, and I'm on a mission to renew my spirit in the face of unchecked

0:22.2

capitalism and all the other isms that plague us. For inspo, I'll be joined by Patty Lynn. She's a former

0:28.4

television screenwriter, producer, and author of the new book End Credits, How I Broke Up with Hollywood.

0:39.8

Now, I'm not a television writer, and not many of us are.

0:43.3

But there are certain cultural attitudes that transcend many workplaces, toxic bosses,

0:48.6

hustle culture, quote, earning your keep, all that bullshit.

0:52.6

And for many of us, we hit a breaking point and we start to

0:55.7

ask ourselves, do I need to make a big change? I'm kind of in that spot myself, actually.

1:05.1

Earlier this year, I sat with my friend and we talked about what it would take to go on sabbatical.

1:09.4

I had been recently laid off.

1:11.1

I was grieving a recent loss,

1:12.6

and I was trying to come to terms with a string of exploitative experiences

1:15.8

that spanned several years in a field that I loved.

1:19.7

Eventually, the stress caused mental health and physical issues that I couldn't ignore.

1:24.4

To say it was a good time to take a break was putting it lightly.

1:27.4

Where did all the workers go?

1:29.4

Millions of women are still missing from the workplace and the situation actually got worse when

1:34.3

schools reopened in September. Natural black hair is often unfairly looked at as inappropriate

1:40.1

in places like the work environment, school and even on camera. However, legislation first

1:46.7

passed in 2019 is hoping to make that discrimination illegal. Labor Day returned to office

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