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The Waves: America’s Dangerous Obsession with Trans Women

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Arts, Tv & Film, Music

4.42K Ratings

🗓️ 24 August 2023

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

On this week’s episode of The Waves, why can’t celebrities and sports organizations leave trans people alone? On the heels of the International Chess Federation excluding trans women from competing, and some terrible statements from singer Ne-Yo (remember Ne-Yo?) Waves host Scaachi Koul wants to know why everyone is so obsessed with trans people. She talks with cartoonist and author of the graphic novel, Boys Weekend, Mattie Lubchansky about why celebrities can’t help but get involved, why trans women continue to take the brunt of these types of attacks, and what hope there is for the future of trans rights. In Slate Plus: It’s the season finale of And Just Like That…season 2. If you liked this episode, check out: How a Drag Queen Recreated the American Dream Podcast production by Cheyna Roth with editorial oversight by Scaachi Koul, Daisy Rosario and Alicia Montgomery. Additional help from Victoria Whitley-Berry. Send your comments and recommendations on what to cover to [email protected]. If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get an ad-free experience across the network and exclusive content on many shows—you’ll also be supporting the work we do here on How To!. Sign up now at slate.com/thewavesplus to help support our work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Have you ever thought, ugh, this water is too wet?

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Or this beach is too sandy.

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My name's Christine.

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And my name is Sandy.

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And where the host of Beach to Sandy water to wet.

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A podcast where we do dramatic readings of the most wild and off the wall reviews on

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the internet.

0:16.3

We find the funniest, real reviews about everything from Vegas weddings, matchmaking services

0:21.4

and trader joes, to caves, toddler beds, and spirit Halloween.

0:25.6

You won't believe the things that people think absolutely must be set on the internet.

0:29.2

How else would everyone know that some caves don't have Wi-Fi?

0:32.0

We hear about the good, the bad, and that one time spirit Halloween sent someone a dildo

0:36.1

instead of a Halloween costume.

0:37.8

And believe it or not, we got to the bottom of it.

0:40.5

Join us every Wednesday wherever you listen to your podcasts.

0:43.5

Beach to Sandy water to wet is brought to you by the Forever Dog Podcast Network.

0:47.4

Today's episode talks a lot about anti-trans legislation, anti-trans� discrimination, and

0:51.9

generally people being in nuisance about trans people living their lives.

0:55.4

Listen with care.

0:59.2

Welcome to the Waves, Slate's podcast about the terror of gender, feminism, and today,

1:08.1

letting trans kids live a life of peace without having to think about NEO's hats.

1:13.4

Every week we talk about what fresh hell is being unleashed on the girls and the gays,

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