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The Delingpod: The James Delingpole Podcast

The Waugh Tapes, Part 1

The Delingpod: The James Delingpole Podcast

James Delingpole

Society & Culture

4.61.6K Ratings

🗓️ 12 August 2025

⏱️ 117 minutes

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Summary

In July 2024, shortly before he died of cancer, I paid a last visit to the Somerset home of my wonderful friend Alexander Waugh. Alexander was one of the kindest, most generous, most talented and intellectually curious friends it has ever been my privilege to know. His rich and varied career included stints as a musician, concert promoter, author, keeper of the Waugh (Evelyn was his grandfather) family archives and researcher into the Shakespearean authorship question. (He thought it was Edward de Vere, Earl of Oxford). Though he was in some discomfort, he died a happy man, lovingly cared for at home by his devoted wife Eliza. I haven’t listened to these recordings we made since. They’ve been sitting on my iPhone and the only reason I didn’t release them earlier was inertia. They also feature our friend Bob Moran. We talk about God, music, death, everything.

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0:00.0

If I've ever put that there, will that...

0:09.0

You could do whatever you wish.

0:11.0

I just want to say I'm very honoured to be with you.

0:13.0

I'm really honoured and I'm not a flatterer ever.

0:17.0

But James, I keep saying this to you.

0:19.0

As a writer, I think you're astounding.

0:22.2

Well, thank you.

0:23.3

No, I mean, you're beyond.

0:24.9

You're a very, very, very talented and given writer.

0:32.0

And who would have known it?

0:33.0

And I've already said what I've already said to Bob.

0:37.7

But I think the creative spirit, which drives all three of us, which is something none of us

0:45.4

understands, because if I asked you how you did it, you wouldn't know.

0:50.9

And now, I don't know if you heard just before you might have just gone out.

0:58.4

I was talking to James about this phrase, I am that I am, which is the name of God,

1:03.0

which you don't use unless you blaspheme.

1:06.7

And I've only found two people who have used it in the whole of the centuries that I've been looking at.

1:11.7

One was Edward Devere in a letter to his father-in-law, who says, I am that I am.

1:15.5

And the other is Shakespeare and his sonnet, one-to-one.

1:26.7

And that also has to do with numbers.

1:28.7

I won't bore you with that at the moment.

1:30.6

1-21 is 11 times 11, which is the name of God.

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