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The Indicator from Planet Money

The water mystery unfolding in the western U.S.

The Indicator from Planet Money

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4.79.5K Ratings

🗓️ 6 January 2025

⏱️ 9 minutes

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There's a rural area in Arizona with massive groundwater basins underneath the earth. Water should be plentiful there, but wells are running dry. Today on the show, what's behind the water issues in rural Arizona?

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0:00.0

NPR

0:02.0

This is the indicator from Planet Money.

0:14.0

I'm Darien Woods.

0:15.0

In December, Arizona's Attorney General Chris Mays held a press conference announcing a lawsuit against

0:21.4

Fondermonte, a company that grows alfalfa in the state.

0:25.3

She called its pumping of underground water excessive.

0:28.5

Excessive is debwatering nearby wells.

0:33.0

Excessive is causing subsidence in a way that potentially damages infrastructure. Excessive is pumping so much

0:44.7

water that it damages the quality of the water that remains.

0:50.1

And where this lawsuit may stand out is Fondamonte's ties to the royal family of Saudi Arabia.

0:57.7

Zach Ziegler has been following the story for NPR member station AZPM in Tucson and water in general in the southwest for the podcast tapped.

1:06.6

Welcome, Zach.

1:07.7

Hey, thanks for having me, Darien.

1:09.4

As you know, this is all playing out in La Paz

1:11.7

County. It's a rural area, like fewer than five people per square mile rural, with massive

1:17.5

groundwater basins underneath it. Right, so given that, you'd think the community would be

1:22.7

flush with water. But residents there have been complaining about their wells going dry for

1:27.4

some time now,

1:28.6

and that is leaving them with the choice to spend tens of thousands to dig deeper for their water

1:34.7

or find a new home. Yeah, and the issue goes deeper than alfalfa farming. A New York-based

1:40.6

private equity firm may also be part of it.

1:49.3

So today on the indicator, what is behind these water tensions in rural Arizona?

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