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The Europeans | European news, politics and culture

The wars of the future

The Europeans | European news, politics and culture

Katy Lee and Dominic Kraemer

Politics, News, Society & Culture

4.8162 Ratings

🗓️ 27 May 2019

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Should machines have the power to decide whether a human on the battlefield lives or dies? Ulrike Franke spends her days imagining the wars of the future. We chatted to her about ‘killer robots’ and rogue drones. Plus: a far-right honey-trap and Germany in the age of the influencer.

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0:00.0

Oh man, it is nice to hear that jingle again. Did you miss it last week, Dominic?

0:20.0

Yes, I did. It was quite a shock to have other music in an episode.

0:25.5

Oh, other music. But yeah, listeners, you'll be happy to hear that everything's back to normal. It's all okay now.

0:32.3

What are you saying about my special episode? Your special episode was really lovely, Katie, and you did a great job,

0:37.8

and I really liked, I really liked the music actually in the special episode. They're funny,

0:41.3

like plinky, plonky, plonky music. But sometimes you just want the normal thing as well.

0:46.9

It wouldn't be the Europeans without the jingle that has been fondly described by one listener

0:51.4

as Craftwerk meets Eurovision. And we haven't talked about Eurovision yet? No, we haven't.

0:56.1

Did you watch it?

0:57.2

Kind of. I only saw the results because I was performing

1:00.0

and it was very exciting because

1:03.4

as listeners might know, I live in the Netherlands

1:05.0

and the Netherlands won and yeah,

1:08.2

congrats, Dungan Lawrence. Is that his name?

1:10.5

Very English name, whatever his name is.

1:12.1

You don't even know he is.

1:13.2

He had a really nice song called Arcade.

1:15.4

Is he called?

1:15.8

I'm just going to check out.

1:16.8

Yeah, he is called Duncan Lawrence.

1:18.0

It's a very English name.

1:19.5

He was winning.

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