You are about to listen to a BBC podcast and I'd like to tell you a bit about what goes into making one.

I'm Sadata Sese, an assistant commissioner of podcasts for BBC Sounds.

I pull a lot of levers to support a diverse range of podcasts on all sorts of subjects,

relationships, identity, comedy, even one that mixes poetry, music and inner city life.

So one day I'll be helping host develop their ideas, the next fact-checking, a feature,

and the next looking at how a podcast connects with its audience.

And maybe that's you.

So if you like this podcast, check out some others on BBC Sounds.

You're listening to BBC Sounds. Hello there and boy do we have a blockbuster line-up on Scrum 5 the warm-up this week.

The most capped player in international rugby, a two-tort test lion who's played for some of the biggest clubs around the globe.

And a man who's annexed out about fashion and footwear has earned him a seat back on the sofa this week, wasn't my decision, Tom Shankly.

You've done me dirty there.

You've got to take what you give.

Okay.

We were all, you're all looking fresh, enthusiastic, ready to go.

Despite you're all celebrating Jonathan Davis's testimony last night

directly on this sofa.

Enjoy yourselves?

Yeah, it was good fun.

Really good event, wasn't it, in London and London.

Just a great way to support one of our teammates.

Some of our faces there to me as well.

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