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Scrum V

The Warm Up: Playing for pride

Scrum V

BBC

Sports, Rugby

4.6927 Ratings

🗓️ 4 September 2025

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

As Wales prepare to face the final challenge of a difficult World Cup campaign, Lauren Jenkins is joined by former Wales internationals Ellis Jenkins, Philippa Tuttiett and Siwan Lillicrap to discuss the highs and lows of the competition and look ahead to Wales v Fiji.

Transcript

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0:00.0

You're listening to BBC Sounds.

0:20.4

Hello and welcome to Scrum 5, the warm up.

0:23.3

Now as Wales prepare for their final match of a difficult World Cup campaign, I'm joined by

0:28.6

Ellis Jenkins, Phil Petitiat and Shue and Lily Crapp to look ahead to what could be an

0:32.9

almighty test against Fijiana.

0:35.8

Johan Cunningham's Fijiana at that, Wales's former head coach,

0:39.6

which brings a different dimension to things. We'll get on to that in a moment. But,

0:44.1

Philippa, before I ask what the mood's like in the Wales camp, what's the mood like in the Scrum 5

0:48.7

camp this afternoon? Well, from a women's rugby perspective, like, how brilliant. Once again, another round of

0:56.6

record-breaking crowds, record-breaking views, the amount of people that are tuning in to watch it.

1:01.7

And then we had ridiculously amazing games. USA against Australia, we always knew that was going to be

1:06.9

interesting. The highest ever draw in World Cup history, 31 all.

1:11.6

Talk about a nail bite. So when you use the cliche of end-to-end, that is actually the game that was end-to-end stuff. It's brilliant. And then Portia Woodman Whitcliffe, we talked about her at the beginning, how much of an amazing rugby player she is for New Zealand, the winger, came out of retirement to play in this World Cup. She has now officially become the highest, the top tri-scorer of any New Zealand player,

1:32.2

male or female.

1:33.0

So just another round of incredible rugby and more people tuning in and getting exposed to it,

1:37.6

which is great.

1:38.2

One reason to celebrate Alice, you haven't actually come completely matching.

1:42.9

Do you know what I actually had a white top as an option.

1:45.2

And then I went with this because it was raining. I got a full wardrobe in my car just in case. Just in case. I mean, five or six times we've been completely matching. Yeah, colour coordinated from head to toe. I don't like it. It doesn't feel right. I think we'll have to make sure we're able to match it again next time. Yeah, for those of you listening, you wear actually both in base trousers,

1:43.3

but Alice sat there and a crisp white top

2:04.0

pillow and a brown black jumper but do you know ellis it was difficult on monday to judge the

2:10.3

tone i think from a wales perspective because shorn lynn postmatch spoke about the pride of seeing his team front-up,

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