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You're listening to BBC Sounds. Well, it's felt like a long and bruising autumn campaign, hasn't it?

So I'm delighted to say the USC is back this week.

And joining me on Scrum 5 the Warmup at Jonathan Davis and Ellis Jenkins.

I'm not wishing to repeat ourselves too much from a Welsh perspective

when looking at what went wrong against the likes of Fiji and Australia.

We've got an outsider's perspective from a man who side beat those teams,

former Scotland Scrum Half Rory Lawson.

Good to see you.

You did lose South Africa though,

so at least we've all got that in common. How's it going? Very good, thanks, Lauren.

Great to be here. And yeah, I think it's lovely to be in the mix with an element of sort of optimism

and positivity around Scottish rugby and every cloud and all that.

The South Africa loss does mean that I still hold on as being the last captain to beat the springbox of Scotland.

So there we go.

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