The War That Never Was: Science vs. Faith – Prof. Lawrence M. Principe
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🗓️ 4 March 2026
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Summary
Prof. Lawrence M. Principe argues that the supposed “war” between science and faith is largely a modern myth, constructed in the late 19th century by figures like John William Draper and Andrew Dickson White for personal, political, and ideological reasons, then amplified by secularizers, technocratic utopians, and bad theology (especially “God‑of‑the‑gaps” arguments and naive literalism) on the religious side.
This lecture was given on January 28th, 2026, at New York University.
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About the Speakers:
Prof. Principe’s research focuses on the Medieval and early modern periods, with emphasis on the history of science (especially alchemy and chemistry), and the science-religion dynamic down to the present day. He is the Drew Professor of the Humanities at Johns Hopkins University in the Department of History of Science and Technology and the Department of Chemistry. He holds degrees from the University of Delaware (B.S. Chemistry and B.A. Liberal Studies), Indiana University (Ph.D. Organic Chemistry) and Johns Hopkins (Ph.D., History of Science).
Keywords: Andrew Dickson White, Draper White, God Of The Gaps Critique, Methodological Naturalism, Scientism And Technocratic Utopianism, Warfare Between Science And Theology
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| 0:25.2 | I expect that some, or maybe even many of you, may be surprised at the title of my talk, |
| 0:30.1 | or even skeptical of it. |
| 0:32.0 | After all, isn't it clear from the news, from the Internet, from virtually any number of sources, |
| 0:39.1 | that there is an ongoing conflict or warfare between science and faith. Well, you would not be entirely wrong to think that |
| 0:45.9 | way, but there's a lot more to be said, which is sort of what I'm going to be saying for the next |
| 0:50.3 | 40 minutes or so. As a historian, I'm interested in what I might call the long view of things. |
| 0:57.4 | And so my question is this. |
| 1:00.0 | If we believe that there is a war between science and faith, one, how did it come to be? |
| 1:06.7 | And two, what are its foundations and its origins? Well, the conflict is often presented to us today as something inevitable and eternal, |
| 1:16.6 | arising out of various incommensurabilities between science and faith. |
| 1:22.6 | But what I hope to show you this evening is that this state of affairs is, first of all, |
| 1:26.6 | a very recent development, |
| 1:29.4 | and two, its foundations rest not upon historical realities, but upon social, political, and |
| 1:36.3 | personal agendas on the one hand, and upon needless theological missteps on the other. |
| 1:43.2 | Well, the place to start is, for to say very clearly that the conflict or warfare model |
| 1:50.0 | for the historical interaction of science and religion has been rejected by every serious |
| 1:57.0 | historian of science, period. Every serious historian of science today. Yet, it remains not only |
| 2:06.7 | widespread, but naturalized as a fact in popular culture. I like to compare it, actually, to a pernicious |
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