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All right, well, unless you've been under a rock for the last hour, you know that Alex Jones is currently live with Joe Rogan. So I don't want to get in the way of that. They're just getting into TNT and what it means. So here it is. Let's go to it right now. Okay, but that term, the problem with that term is it lumps you into like, you know what that Mel Gibson movie conspiracy theory was a wacky dude who's driving a cab and believed in it? Has he been tortured? Yes, exactly. He'd be compartmentalized. Yes. But that kind of stuff when you say the government is doing it. Like who is doing this? Who's working on these experiments? But you don't have to say names. No, no. Here's the thing. Is it the it the N. Obviously, okay, maybe you want to say the government because it paints a broad brush.

I'll tell you.

No, you're right.

It's dumb to say the government and the big question is who runs things. That's a smart question. That's the thing is they, when everybody says, they don't want you to know. you to know. Do you remember that fucking guy who

was ripping people off, like, weight loss

secrets that they don't want you to know.

Kevin Trudeau. And they put him in jail for that.

He's in jail right now because he won't get him with the money.

Because he's got... who is ripping people off, like, weight loss secrets that they don't want you to know. Kevin Trudeau.

And they put him in jail for that.

He's in jail right now because he won't get him off the money because he's got a pile of cash somewhere and he said he would do that. I think they said they would give him time off. You know, Kevin Trudeau, I think, is a con man. I've met him a few times. Very manipulative. but I think he has a right to say health care cures or natural cures I don't want you

know about.

There are some.

There are some.

The point is they don't. Look, I have some love in my heart for Kevin Trudeau because he started the international pool tour. He was putting a lot of money in a professional pool. Yeah, but I mean, here's the old. The OxyContin Company, the documents came out, said, we're going to totally addict people, and then we're

going to sell them drugs to get off of it.

Yes.

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