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This is the political scene, a weekly conversation with New Yorker writers and editors about politics.

It's Friday, June 19th. I'm Dorothy Wickenden, executive editor of The New Yorker.

On Tuesday, Senators John McCain and Diane Feinstein spoke out for an amendment they've been advocating that bans the use of torture in government interrogations.

Here's Feinstein.

We should all agree that there can be no turning back to the error of torture.

Interrogation techniques that would together constitute torture do not work.

They corrode our moral standing, and ultimately they undermine any counterterrorism policies they are intended to support.

The amendment to the defense authorization bill passed the Senate the next day.

In the current issue of the magazine, Connie Bruck wrote about Senator Feinstein's investigation into the torture

of detainees during the war on terror. She and Jane Mayer are joining me to discuss why this

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