The War on Iran and Convergences of Fascism
It Could Happen Here
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🗓️ 4 June 2026
⏱️ 27 minutes
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Summary
Dana El Kurd speaks to Negar Razavi, a political anthropologist at the Mossavar-Rahmani Center for Iran and Persian Gulf Studies. Dana and Negar discuss conditions in Iran today, the impact the war has had on the regime and on regional dynamics, and how the “experts” in DC are implicated in this disaster.
Sources:
Mohammad Ali Kadivar on the Iranian regime’s popular mobilization - https://www.journalofdemocracy.org/online-exclusive/why-the-iranian-regime-owns-the-streets/
Moustafa Bayoumi on the anti-Palestinian roots of Islamophobia - https://www.theguardian.com/news/article/2024/may/23/islamophobia-us-palestine-history
Negar Razavi’s website - https://negarsrazavi.com/
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| 0:00.0 | This is an I-Heart podcast. |
| 0:02.5 | Guaranteed Human. |
| 0:06.0 | Call Zone Media. |
| 0:10.3 | Hello, everyone, and welcome to It Could Happen here. |
| 0:12.9 | My name is Dan Al-Kurd. |
| 0:14.1 | I'm a researcher and analyst of Arab and Palestinian politics. |
| 0:17.2 | And today I'm joined by Dr. Nagar Razavi. |
| 0:19.8 | She is a political anthropologist at the, I'm going to get this right, |
| 0:23.7 | Masavar Rahmani Center for Iran and Persian Gulf Studies at Princeton University. |
| 0:29.1 | And her work is on the role of think tanks in shaping U.S. security policies |
| 0:33.3 | towards the Middle East and Iran specifically. |
| 0:35.4 | And I've recently had the pleasure of being at a symposium with Dr. Rossavi, and I thought |
| 0:41.9 | she would be a really welcome viewpoint for our audience. |
| 0:45.7 | Thank you for joining us. |
| 0:47.2 | Thanks so much for having me. |
| 0:48.7 | So I think in regards to the war on Iran, there's been such a focus on the Strait of Hermuz and the economic impact of that, that conditions on the ground have really slipped from our radars. Like, I don't see it as often, and I think I'm a very well-plugged-in person. So can we start there? Can you tell us more about the situation and what it's like for like the average Iranian right now. |
| 1:16.5 | Yeah. Thank you so much for leading with that because I do think that is absolutely missing in not only mainstream media, but in much of the policy discussions that both of us follow closely. |
| 1:24.6 | It's very bad on the ground for ordinary Iranians on all fronts. |
| 1:30.8 | Economically, it is very dire at the moment. |
| 1:35.7 | Inflation is now at unbelievably high rates. |
| 1:39.7 | The level of damage that happened to the country, the physical damage, cause a lot of people to lose |
| 1:46.8 | their jobs, if not their lives, because they hit hospitals, they hit schools, they hit factories. |
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