I'm Bill Moyers. It's good to have your ear.

Scientist David Suzuki on capitalism and climate change.

The fossil fuel industry knows that fossil fuel use is at the heart of climate change.

But the problem is their job as CEOs and executives is to make money for their shareholders,

and they'll do it.

There is no question that we're in a new extinction phase, but now it's being caused by one species alone,

which is us.

And as long as we carry on the conversation within a frame

that is dictated by economics, then we're going to lose every time. Thanks for joining us. Last week, the scientist David Suzuki was here to tell us what he thinks should happen

to politicians who ignore or deny evidence that the earth is heating up.

Our politicians should be thrown in the slammer for willful blindness.

If we are in a position of being able to act and we see something going

on and we refuse to acknowledge the threat or act on it, we can be taken to court for willful

blindness. I think that we are being willfully blind to the consequences for our children and

grandchildren. It's an intergenerational crime.

The problem is, if that should happen,

if politicians were to be convicted of willful blindness

to the fate of the earth and future generations,

there would have to be mass arrests and lots more funding for new prisons.

We're not talking about a mere handful of culprits.

It's hard even to know where to start.

Perhaps with Marco Rubio, Republican Senator from Florida. Back when he was a state legislator,

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