Hello and welcome to this day in esoteric political history from radiotopia.

My name is Jody Avergan.

And now this is usually the part of the intro where I say a date and a year and a

specific moment that we are discussing but we're doing something a little

different during the holidays so this is actually part one of a two-part

episode we are doing about the war on Christmas, the idea that

Christmas in America is under assault especially from forces on the cultural and

religious left. At this point talking about the war on Christmas on say Fox News is as much of a Christmas tradition as you know celebrating Christmas itself

But there are lots of interesting history points along the way lots of moments to discuss, and dates to discuss.

So here to do that, as always, is Nicole Hemmer of Columbia.

Hello, Nicky.

Hello, Jody.

I think we should rename it this holiday

in esoteric political history.

Well, they, exactly.

And our special guest for this two-parter

is Michael Hobbs, reporter for Huff Post,

and co-host of the excellent podcast

you're wrong about and maintenance phase.

Michael, welcome and I want you to listen very closely to how I greet you, Merry Christmas.

Wow.

Oh, wow, I feel attacked already.

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