The War Crimes Trial
Ukrainecast
BBC
4.7 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 18 May 2022
⏱️ 38 minutes
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Summary
The BBC World Service's Svyatoslav Khomenko tells us what's he observed at the court of the first war crimes trial of the Ukraine conflict.
Also, Victoria and Vitaly speak with Olga Ivshina from the BBC Russian Service, who has been investigating forced mobilisation in the Eastern Ukraine region of Donbas. People living there told her men had been grabbed in the streets, whilst out shopping or on public transport. Many haven’t been seen since.
And leading international lawyer Philippe Sands weighs in on whether Biden and Zelensky are right to describe what is happening in Ukraine as a genocide.
Today’s Ukrainecast was made by Estelle Doyle with Osman Iqbal and Alix Pickles. The technical producer was Emma Crowe. The assistant editor was Sam Bonham.
Email Ukrainecast@bbc.co.uk with your questions and comments. You can also send us a message or voice note via WhatsApp to +44 0330 1234 220.
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | BBC sounds, music, radio, podcasts. |
| 0:04.8 | Hello, it's 84 days since Russian forces invaded Ukraine. |
| 0:10.0 | And we want you to listen to a man called Ivan Simaraz, |
| 0:15.2 | who has lost his wife, his mum, his dad, his brother, |
| 0:21.6 | his grandma, his one-year-old daughter, and his dog, |
| 0:26.4 | when a missile hit the family home. |
| 0:30.0 | And this man is a police officer in Kiev, |
| 0:33.6 | and his family are six of 1200 bodies of civilians |
| 0:40.7 | that have been recovered by police in the region of Kiev |
| 0:44.0 | since the Russians pulled out last month. |
| 0:46.6 | And Ivan and his colleagues are now working |
| 0:50.2 | to gather evidence of potential war crimes. |
| 0:54.4 | And our correspondent in the capital, James Waterhouse, |
| 0:57.0 | has been speaking to Ivan as they walked through the rubble |
| 1:01.2 | where he found the bodies of his family. |
| 1:05.2 | We found my mother dead on a fleech here, |
| 1:09.0 | and then we kept searching. |
| 1:13.1 | 200 meters away, he found his brother next to his dog. |
| 1:18.2 | Then he found his grandmother, covered in bricks. |
| 1:21.9 | Then his one-year-old daughter, on a sofa, still breathing. |
| 1:26.6 | Then his wife, then his father. |
| 1:32.4 | It was a horror, very scary and hard to understand. |
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