The war crimes investigator
Ukrainecast
BBC
4.7 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 16 September 2022
⏱️ 34 minutes
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Summary
Nigel Povoas is a British lawyer who travelled to the newly recaptured territory in Eastern Ukraine as part of an international team helping with war crimes. He tells Victoria and Vitaly why based on his experience of the war so far, he believes more evidence of atrocities will emerge.
They also talk to Volodymyr Zelensky, who is from the city of Izyum, where a mass burial site has been discovered. He describes life under Russian occupation and the risks associated with sharing the same name as the Ukrainian president.
Also, they’re joined by the BBC Russia’s Olga Ivshina. Together they discuss the significance of leaked footage showing the head of the Russian mercenary company, the Wagner group, telling prisoners they would be freed if they served six months in Ukraine.
And we hear from Pavel Filatiev, a Russian soldier who fought in Ukraine, but has now become an outspoken critic of the war.
The series producer is Estelle Doyle. The producers are Ivana Davidovic and Arsenii Sokolov. The planning producer is Louise Hidalgo. The technical producer is Emma Crowe. The editor is Jonathan Aspinwall. Email Ukrainecast@bbc.co.uk with your questions and comments. You can also send us a message or voice note via WhatsApp, Signal or Telegram to +44 330 1239480.
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| 0:00.0 | BBC sounds, music, radio, podcasts. |
| 0:05.0 | Hello, it's 205 days since Russia began its invasion of Ukraine. |
| 0:10.0 | And in our last episode, we spoke to Anastasia from Balakalia. |
| 0:14.6 | One of the places recently liberated by the Ukrainian military. |
| 0:19.4 | And it was really upsetting because she lost her mum, |
| 0:23.8 | to Russian shelling, and she told us about her mum. |
| 0:29.2 | My mum was Valelyena, and she was very beautiful woman, she was the best mother and grandmother. |
| 0:44.2 | She was the most beautiful woman, she was the best mother and grandmother. |
| 0:51.2 | I keep thinking about her saying, we just want to go home, we just had enough, |
| 0:56.2 | it's enough now, it needs to stop. |
| 0:58.2 | That's the thing that's that's stayed with me. |
| 1:01.2 | If you haven't listened to Anastasia, please do go back and hear what she had to say. |
| 1:05.2 | She wanted to talk to you, she wants to tell the world what happened to her family. |
| 1:10.2 | And there is a really gorgeous moment, actually, when her seven-year-old son joins her on Zoom, |
| 1:17.2 | and they share an Eskimo kiss. |
| 1:20.2 | And in this episode we'll be hearing from another Ukrainian city, Izum, |
| 1:26.2 | also recently liberated in Kharkiv region. |
| 1:31.2 | The authorities there say they have discovered hundreds of graves in the city, |
| 1:38.2 | people who were killed during Russian occupation. |
| 1:45.2 | This is Ukraine Cast. |
| 1:47.2 | The question for us now is to be or not to be. |
| 1:54.2 | I'm ordering the Ministry of Defence to put the strategic nuclear forces on special alert. |
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