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Welcome to another episode of Conversations with Coleman. My guest today is Oren Kessler.

Oren Kessler is a writer, journalist, and political analyst whose work has appeared in foreign affairs,

foreign policy, the Wall Street Journal, and the Washington Post. He's also the author of

Palestine, 1936, The Great Revolt and the Roots of the Middle East

Conflict.

This episode is all about the Arab revolts of the late 1930s, back when what is today Israel

was British Mandate Palestine.

That revolt set the stage for the war that Israelis call their war of independence, and

Arabs call the Nakhba.

And we could see the seed of many features of today's Israel-Palestine conflict in that

revolt. In this conversation, we also talk about whether it's true, as Dave Smith and others

frequently allege, that Israel introduced terrorism into the region. So without further ado,

Oren Kessler.

Okay, Orrin Kessler, thanks so much for coming on my show.

Thank you so much, Coleman, for having me.

I've been a fan for a long time uh your book on Palestine 1936 which is like one of the only comprehensive books for for the general public on that

on the very important arab riots from 36 to 39 is excellent. I highly recommend people read it. And

that's a lot of what we'll cover today, but we'll also cover some general topics on the history

of the Arab-Israeli conflict and maybe a few of your thoughts about what's going on. Now,

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