All right, this is the moment I like really go for it.

My guest this week is Billy Disney.

You might not know his name, but you've definitely seen his videos.

Billy was an early influencer of video content at companies like The Verge and Mike.com.

But not everyone bought into his vision from the beginning.

I don't think anyone else gets like what this could be, but this is like a whole other

like category of web video.

So what did he do when no one would give him permission?

He did it anyway.

I was just like, no, we're like doing it now and I just like started making stuff.

It just became real because we kind of just like willed it.

He learned early on that he couldn't do it alone.

You put like a lot of time and energy and heart into developing these relationships.

For me, it's really worth it.

That's the thing.

That's the thing I value the most.

This is the ground up show. show today on the other

i have the other disney billy disney not walt it's. Welcome to the show. Thank you.

You get that a lot.

Yes. Yeah.

In fact, that's my email address is Billy at notwalt.com.

I've embraced it now. I used to hate it.

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