The Wajahat Ali Interview
Gaslit Nation
Gaslit Nation
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🗓️ 15 April 2026
⏱️ 41 minutes
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Summary
Americans must fight a war on two fronts: against MAGA fascism and Democratic Party complacency. Wajahat Ali of the Left Hook on Substack and author of Go Back to Where You Came From: And Other Helpful Recommendations on How to Become American joins Gaslit Nation to discuss how to actually build back better this time.
Donald Trump is America's karma of white supremacy, greed, and misogyny. But while the MAGA virus burns through our institutions, another danger is the "Big Club" in Washington, D.C. where Republicans and Democrats share the same donors, the same golf clubs, and the same refusal to tax the rich.
The DNC thinks they can waltz into power by not being Trump, but voters want a fighter and they want accountability. We are watching a righteous rage build across the globe, from the resistance in Ukraine and Hungary to vigilante violence here at home. When an Amazon worker drops dead and colleagues are told to work around the body, the status quo makes revolution by any means inevitable.
Ukrainians are fighting a war on two fronts: homegrown corruption and Kremlin fascism. We must see ourselves in the same fight. If the Democrats choose the James Carville "possum strategy" and refuse to face reality, they are simply clearing the deck for a more competent autocrat in 2032.
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Show Notes:
Amazon Accused of Hiding Worker's Death for a Week, Making Employees Keep Working as Corpse Lay on Floor https://futurism.com/future-society/amazon-accused-hiding-death-week
Worker who allegedly set fire to California warehouse compares self to Luigi Mangione https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/apr/10/california-warehouse-arson-luigi-mangione
Newsom Vows to Stop Proposed Billionaire Tax in California https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/13/us/newsom-billionaire-tax-california.html
Christiane Amanpour and Jill Lepore on CNN: Civil War Confederate President Wasn't Tried, Why It Matters In Trump Case https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXVOIab3ek8
The Black Death by Thomas Asbridge review – a medieval horror story https://www.theguardian.com/books/2026/apr/08/the-black-death-a-global-history-thomas-asbridge-review-pandemic-history-covid
Why Does "DoorDash Grandma" Keep Showing Up with MAGA Members? https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2026/04/14/has-doordash-grandma-appeared-with-other-gop-leaders-what-to-know/89602972007/
Aaron Rupar: "A woman named Lonna Drewes at a news conference just now accused Eric Swalwell of drugging her drink and sexually assaulting her. Here's part of her statement." https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mjhtlsrn5i2z
David Dayen: "Several important nuggets in here: • Swalwell was rebuilding Newsom's inner circle; he was the establishment hope • One lobbyist: "Were we willing to delude ourselves or not ask questions that should have been asked? 1000%" • His campaign started sending cease-and-desists last year" https://bsky.app/profile/ddayen.bsky.social/post/3mjfu4px42c25
Lesley Abravanel: "In a major shift, Cook Political Report has now moved 4 Senate seats toward the Democrats (NC,GA, OH, NE). That's on top of 5 House races that Cook Political moved leftward just last week, all partly due to Trump's unpopular war in Iran that sent gas prices skyrocketing." https://bsky.app/profile/lesleyabravanel.bsky.social/post/3mjflo3zkdc2t
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Gasset Nation, a show about corruption in America and rising autocracy worldwide. |
| 0:15.1 | I am your host, Andrea Chalupa, a journalist and filmmaker, and the writer and producer of the journalistic thriller, Mr. Jones, about Stalin's genocide famine in Ukraine. |
| 0:25.5 | The film The Kremlin doesn't want you to see, so be sure to watch it. |
| 0:28.9 | I am joined this week by the great Wajahad Ali, host of the Left Hook on Substack, an author of Go Back to Where You Came From and other helpful recommendations |
| 0:39.2 | on how to become American. |
| 0:43.1 | Wash, thank you so much for joining me. |
| 0:46.3 | I want to point out that the MAGA brand is toxic. |
| 0:53.0 | J.D. Vance goes to Hungary, fucks a couch, and now Orban is out. |
| 0:57.9 | And the poll numbers are showing that Democrats might not only win the House in these midterms, |
| 1:04.0 | but we might even win some seats in the Senate, which wasn't heard of just a few months ago. |
| 1:11.4 | The craziness in Jared Kushner's Iran and war by choice |
| 1:16.9 | and, you know, closing the Strait of Hermuz and all of that, gas prices, |
| 1:21.0 | and now the draft is getting some updates, right? |
| 1:25.6 | So, you know, that's not going to be barren going out there to |
| 1:28.6 | Iran. And so obviously, Trump, with his weird stunt of DoorDash Grandma coming in, |
| 1:36.8 | DoorDash Grandma is a policy failure to see that poor woman, she should be enjoying her |
| 1:42.1 | grandchildren and not door dashing, right? All of it is just a |
| 1:45.4 | massive car pile up of MAGA self-destruction. But my big concern in all this is if we win, |
| 1:55.6 | which I think we will in the midterms and in 2028 got us willing, how will the Democrats fuck it up? |
| 2:02.5 | You know what I mean? |
| 2:03.6 | So I want to just start there and just get a sense of what are you thinking? |
| 2:07.4 | What are you seeing in all this? |
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