The wage myths of the modern economy
On Point with Meghna Chakrabarti
WBUR
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🗓️ 18 August 2022
⏱️ 48 minutes
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Why are wages what they are? We talk about the myths that help set wages in the modern economy. Jake Rosenfeld and Larry Mishel join Meghna Chakrabarti.
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| 0:00.0 | This is on point. I'm Megna Chakrabardi. Why are lawyers paid more than teachers? |
| 0:18.3 | Really, I'm asking you, why do you think lawyers generally are paid more than teachers? |
| 0:30.3 | Is it because lawyers are more valuable? I mean, let's just presume for a moment that salaries |
| 0:39.9 | are a pretty good proxy for value. After all, that's one of the fundamental precepts of |
| 0:46.3 | market-based systems, right? You get paid, what you're worth to an organization. You get paid |
| 0:52.6 | based on your value. So if we zoom out a bit, we could say that different kinds of jobs are paid |
| 1:00.9 | what they're worth to the society they serve. That's the presumption for the moment. |
| 1:07.6 | So given that, let's look up some numbers. The federal bureau of labor statistics has a fantastic |
| 1:14.2 | website. And if you go to BLS.gov and you look up lawyers, you'll see that in 2021, the median |
| 1:24.0 | salary for an attorney in the United States, median salary, okay, was $127,000. Well, I should say |
| 1:33.7 | more specifically, $127,990. So remember, that's median salary across the whole country, the middle |
| 1:42.8 | of what lawyers get paid, $127,990. Okay, so now let's look up teachers. The Bureau of Labor |
| 1:55.3 | Statistics says that in that same year, 2021, the median salary for American high school teachers was |
| 2:04.3 | $61,820. For elementary school teachers, it was $61,350 median salary again. So in both cases, |
| 2:19.5 | though, for teachers, the median salary in this country is less than half the median salary |
| 2:26.5 | for lawyers. So why is that? Going back to our initial presumption that pay is a proxy for value, |
| 2:38.0 | are we the collective we here in the United States saying that lawyers are twice as valuable as |
| 2:44.2 | teachers? Are we saying that what teachers do is worth half of what a lawyer does? Now, I'm not |
| 2:52.3 | saying that lawyers are not valuable to society. Shakespearean quotes aside, okay, I'm not saying that, |
| 2:58.7 | but what I'm asking is why are they getting paid twice as much is what they're doing, |
| 3:07.6 | how they're performing, the very purpose of their jobs, their level of execution in those jobs, |
| 3:13.5 | is that all really twice as good, twice as valuable as what teachers do. |
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